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Mumsnet Obsession With Penises

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Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 18:33

My controversial opinion is that most of the Mums who obsess here over penises, uteruses and chromosomes, would pick more important and interesting topics if their own child was trans.

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Shortshriftandlethal · 30/06/2025 11:37

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 20:09

Yes and being gay presumably.

Most trans identified girls are actually lesbians, and a large number of trans identified men are gay; the other half are cross dressers who have taken things "full time".

Did you not read the Cass report and the findings coming out of the Tavistock - that large numbers of children presenting were either gay and/or autistic; and sometimes with actively homophobic parents.

EdithStourton · 30/06/2025 11:36

BettyBooper · 30/06/2025 09:08

Meatball curry?! Is this a thing?

Yes agreed. There's lots of incoherent nonsense flying in.

Meatball curry is 100% a thing. It's a household classic in some Malaysian communities.

Datun · 30/06/2025 11:35

With people like the OP, you can't even begin to get involved in the argument that women don't want men in there whether they're dangerous or not.

Even when they know full well they're absolutely not.

I don't want to be in the same changing room as my father-in-law. And he's lovely.

Datun · 30/06/2025 11:34

I grew up in the 80's; had my bum fondled on a staircase aged 7; was flashed at, cat called and had 'whore' shouted at me as a frightened teen...by men. I was terrified walking home from the bus stop - I used to take my shoes off and run.

i'll never understand how people like the OP don't realise that now this man, and every other predator in the land, can follow them straight into the toilet, changing room - and rape refuge.

@Manfreglory imagine if we invented a rule that said adult men could be alone with children and teens, because they belonged to a special sub group of men who said they genuinely meant them no harm.

What do you think would happen?

And you really think that now everybody believes that ALL priests are predators??

Stop just blindly thinking that a sub group of men are the most vulnerable people in the world, and listen to what is actually happening because they are demanding a loophole that erases safeguarding altogether.

Why would they do that? And why would you support it?

BackToLurk · 30/06/2025 11:34

Did you know that in 19th century South Africa black people were termed "non human?". Substitute "trans" for "black" and "not women" for "not human" and then see how your hatred is working for you.

I’ve just noticed this. (Honestly who has the time to read everything) Setting aside the patronising assumption that the OP is the only one who knows anything about 19th century and apartheid-era South Africa, the accurate parallel here is the Green’s category ‘non-men’. Maybe the OP would like to reflect on that.

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/06/2025 11:33

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:59

yes it is a crime and IMO nobody should be dangling their penis about - stats show that those doing the dangling are men not trans women.

In fact the percentage of sex offenders with trans identities is actually higher percentage wise than is the average for men generally.

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/06/2025 11:29

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:46

And trans women are not women, so it's fine to shove THEM under the bus.

Nobody is "shoving anyone under a bus"...just into the facilities designated for them.

It is actually women and girls that have been shoved under a bus......their boundaries trampled; their spaces invaded; their sporting achievements stolen; banned from forums, disciplined at work; reprimanded in school; been subject to violent rhetoric.....their language censored; their words appropriated.

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/06/2025 11:26

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 19:40

I grew up in the 80's; had my bum fondled on a staircase aged 7; was flashed at, cat called and had 'whore' shouted at me as a frightened teen...by men. I was terrified walking home from the bus stop - I used to take my shoes off and run. I once had a lesbian try to pick me up on the tube (so women can be invasive abusive dicks too but that's another point). You're all directing your vitriol at trans women when since the beginning of time it is men hurting women, not trans women hurting women.

Yeah I know you'll all scream "but trans women are MEN" but even if that's the case, why centre your fury around them and not, er, actual man-identifying MEN. Oh and by the way that rapist who pretended to be trans and raped women in a prison: not trans. A man. A fucking deceitful, violent, perverted sex offending man in a dress. Get it right.

You talk so fondly about your husbands' penises yet if a trans woman has one, it's the enemy. At heart, this is all rage and hatred against people who are not "normal" and don't look or identify how you'd prefer them to look and identify. Did you know that in 19th century South Africa black people were termed "non human?". Substitute "trans" for "black" and "not women" for "not human" and then see how your hatred is working for you.

You do know you can be concerned with more than one thing or issue at a time, don't you? It is not either - or. Many here are long time activists on all sorts of issues, and/or intimately involved with female issues on many levels ( and obviously being female themselves)

But not being able to define what a woman is is a pretty fundamental issue. How can you protect or effectively campaign for something you can adequately define; and how is permitting males to identify into female spaces and categories in anyway compatible with female dignity and integrity?

The colonisation of female space by trans ideology seeks to erase women and girls as a distinct category of human being...along with all rights and protections afforded to that group. That is a pretty major issue for those who are concerned with the lives of women and girls on the ground and in everyday reality...rather than in the pages of an ideological manifesto.

CorvusPurpureus · 30/06/2025 11:21

I have a recipe! You airfry them until they collapse & shrivel. Then you discard the crackly blackened skin & cook the delicious smoky pulp with onions, spices & tomatoes.

Oh no wait...that's for 🍆🍆🍆. 🤔

Shortshriftandlethal · 30/06/2025 11:19

Manfreglory · 29/06/2025 18:33

My controversial opinion is that most of the Mums who obsess here over penises, uteruses and chromosomes, would pick more important and interesting topics if their own child was trans.

Lots of women here do have children who have adopted trans identities; and quite a few have husbands who have also done so.

WithSilverBells · 30/06/2025 11:17

Mumsnet's habit of shunting threads that started elsewhere into FWR is not helping things. Particularly when neither the OP nor FWR regulars realise what has happened.

Yes, I imagine the transfer is as much of a shock, if not more, to the OP than it is to us.
OP should be ashamed that their standard of debate was so poor that PPs judged them to be an 11 year old.

lcakethereforeIam · 30/06/2025 11:13

I might be in the market for a recipe for curried pumpkin 🎃 if I'm successful in growing one of the sodding things.

Weirdly, I'm am a bit obsessed with their pistils.

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 11:10

MarieDeGournay · 30/06/2025 09:15

Have I got this right:
there was a question on AIBU 'What is your most controversial opinion?' and somehow this morphed into a bunch of posts appearing on the Feminism: Sex and gender discussions board, most of which display a total lack of awareness of the issues, a complete ignorance of the range of boards on MN, an unwillingness to debate any of their claims, and then 'you've never even met a trans person, door-slam'.

We've had our usual fun with the obvious silliness of a lot of the posts, but nobody on this board asked for these opinions. and frankly it's getting a bit tedious now.

Why did their contributions not appear on the board which originally asked the question about controversial opinions? How did then end up here? Can they all be moved back to AIBU?

I think this thread started off in Chat (not Feminism Chat), which is where the original "What’s the most controversial opinion you hold?" thread is located but is full.

Then, due to the nature of the topic, Mumsnet shunted it to FWR 🙄

Unless the OP cunningly started a thread in AIBU in May to establish a false persona: they are an adult; originally from the UK; who normally lives in "North America"; but is currently living in the UK looking after their father and has a daughter in Canada.

Not clear if M or F.

So many weird contributions to FWR recently and Mumsnet Advanced Search being so effin useless that I am routinely using an internet search engine to search for, eg. "Manfreglory" site:mumsnet.com

Double quotes around the user name helps to exclude false positives from search results.

Some of the other unusual posts that have been plaguing us, that I wrongly suspected were made by new kids on the block coming here from Reddit, have turned out to be from long-standing Mumsnetters who are not FWR regulars.

Mumsnet's habit of shunting threads that started elsewhere into FWR is not helping things. Particularly when neither the OP nor FWR regulars realise what has happened.

It would avoid misunderstandings if MNHQ made an announcement in-thread when they did this.

RapidOnsetGenderCritic · 30/06/2025 11:07

BackToLurk · 30/06/2025 10:11

Could someone bring the thread full circle by providing a recipe for curried penis?

Someone could ask Sarah Jane Baker perhaps? Though I think it was claimed to be testicles, eaten raw.

Datun · 30/06/2025 11:06

@Manfreglory

On the off chance that you're still reading, OP, do you have any idea how ridiculous it sounds when you say that can't be a transwoman, it's a raping, violent, disgusting man.

When there is absolutely no verifiable difference, whatsoever, between the two?

There is no criteria for being trans, other than saying it out loud.

So just think for one single fucking second that if you create a rule where saying some words out loud gives any man, anywhere, access to vulnerable women and children, who the fuck do you think is gonna take advantage of that??

And don't say, you can't blame trans people. If you've got no criteria, it IS trans people.

Think!

BettyBooper · 30/06/2025 10:56

SternJoyousBee · 30/06/2025 10:50

Christ on a bike ….i don’t know how Tom managed to stay so calm during that exchange. Rachel desperately trying to stay on message from what has been drummed into her. Going so far as to downplay a woman being raped by a transwoman on a hospital ward by talking about male rape in prisons! Ignoring the point about this particular example being the gaslighting and denials by staff that the rape was even a possibility. A situation that could only be brought about by blind allegiance to the cause of TWAW.

The really sad thing for me is, that conversation was nearly identical to one I had with my best friend on this issue 😥.

I just couldn't believe it. Still can't. 😥

SternJoyousBee · 30/06/2025 10:50

POWNewcastleEastWallsend · 30/06/2025 02:33

Reminds me of the exchanges between Tom Swarbrick and Rachel who called in to LBC:

https://x.com/LBC/status/1504855407373787143

Christ on a bike ….i don’t know how Tom managed to stay so calm during that exchange. Rachel desperately trying to stay on message from what has been drummed into her. Going so far as to downplay a woman being raped by a transwoman on a hospital ward by talking about male rape in prisons! Ignoring the point about this particular example being the gaslighting and denials by staff that the rape was even a possibility. A situation that could only be brought about by blind allegiance to the cause of TWAW.

MarieDeGournay · 30/06/2025 10:40

Well who wouldn't be obsessed with penises? They are so beautiful, reminiscent of days of yore in their slightly overblown, generous elegance.

They are so lovely I've just sent a bunch of them to a friend for her birthday, I know she'll love them. And free chocolates too!

Mumsnet Obsession With Penises
PrettyDamnCosmic · 30/06/2025 10:39

RedToothBrush · 30/06/2025 10:13

If it's an 11 year old, then Id be concerned about why they were on the internet at 2.30am unsupervised. It would explain many things though.

Alternatively it's an 11 year old in a different time zone. 02:30 BST is 21:30 in New York & 18:30 in San Francisco.

RedToothBrush · 30/06/2025 10:37

Waitwhat23 · 30/06/2025 10:34

Mind you, I was posting at silly o'clock in the morning because the caravan was like an oven and I had gotten bored of glaring at my snoring husband and had run out of revenge scenarios in my head.

(Not a parent of a gender questioning child, but you get the drift)

Oh I occasionally post very late or very early. But that's generally the exception and it's quiet between 2am and 5am as a rule.

Waitwhat23 · 30/06/2025 10:34

RedToothBrush · 30/06/2025 10:10

Well it was certainly interesting that post was 2.30am in the morning.

Most PARENTS of gender questioning kids here will be in bed by that time being knackered after looking their child that they love very much.

(Noting there are actually plenty of Dads here too, but you'd know that if you were a regular).

Mind you, I was posting at silly o'clock in the morning because the caravan was like an oven and I had gotten bored of glaring at my snoring husband and had run out of revenge scenarios in my head.

(Not a parent of a gender questioning child, but you get the drift)

Waitwhat23 · 30/06/2025 10:28

MarieDeGournay · 30/06/2025 09:15

Have I got this right:
there was a question on AIBU 'What is your most controversial opinion?' and somehow this morphed into a bunch of posts appearing on the Feminism: Sex and gender discussions board, most of which display a total lack of awareness of the issues, a complete ignorance of the range of boards on MN, an unwillingness to debate any of their claims, and then 'you've never even met a trans person, door-slam'.

We've had our usual fun with the obvious silliness of a lot of the posts, but nobody on this board asked for these opinions. and frankly it's getting a bit tedious now.

Why did their contributions not appear on the board which originally asked the question about controversial opinions? How did then end up here? Can they all be moved back to AIBU?

Tbf, I can only (theoretically) link this particular thread in relation to the 'controversial opinion thread'. The rest may just be our usual 'say mad shit' ploppers, apropos of nothing.

BettyBooper · 30/06/2025 10:19

ArabellaScott · 30/06/2025 10:18

Fowl Cock Curry?

🤣

nutmeg7 · 30/06/2025 10:16

BackToLurk · 30/06/2025 10:11

Could someone bring the thread full circle by providing a recipe for curried penis?

😂

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