Dd wants to start hormones

ypur daughter needs to be fully aware of the physical effects of testosterone on female genitalia.

it will cause cliteromegaly which may give her a great deal of pain. This will not go away if the testosterone is stopped. It will also cause vaginal dryness, with a rise in UTIs, so more pain. It could give rise to urinary and faecal incontinence, ie all the problems that come with the female menopause but 30 years too soon.Uterine atrophy can be so severe in time a hysterectomy may be required.. these changes will be life long.

this step she is considering in major and has the potential for huge, negative, life long consequences. It isn’t all cute transboys on you tube.

It’s a bit out of the way but would discussing the doping of female athletes in East Germany possibly interest her? The health effect of taking testosterone were terrible for these girls and women. The good thing is it avoids talking about trans at all, just the female body, health and hormones. There’s an excellent documentary here www.pbs.org/video/secrets-of-the-dead-doping-for-gold-preview/

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And, if you think this will catch her interest, do some research with her about potential outcomes. What would she see as positive and why; what would she see as negative and why. Don’t let her shy away from the consequences, but explore the statistics - impact on mental health/suicide ideation, osteoporosis, vaginal atrophy, prolapse, hair loss, voice deepening & facial hair which aren’t reversible?. I’m sort of assuming the numbers will be more meaningful to her than other people’s stories?

Reading up on the syptoms of vaginal atrophy might be useful.

I would push it down the line rather than fight against it straight away.
She will do better in her degree without this disruption to her health, PBs and cross sex hormones can reduce IQ, so why make life harder for herself...

She'll find a job more easily, it's unfair but true that she'll find employment more easily as a woman than an obvious trans person, so it'd be better to get a job first and then explore changing.

The more life experience she gets the less binary the world will look

I have a granddaughter who is independent minded and doesn't conform to the 'girly' TikTok obsessions of many of her friends. She likes gaming and has non sterotypical interests. Fortunately she's younger than the daughter of the OP and has not been subject to the same type of social pressures. The whole 'trans' thing is waning now and younger people are moving on into new kinds of alternative space.

I honestly think that such girls, who don't like or conform to the on trend obsessions with fashion, hair and make-up ( Sephora etc) - a number of years ago would have identified themselves as goths or emo. That was certainly the case when i was teaching. I left teaching in 2010, and 'trans' simply was not a thing. Nobody had heard of it, and the 'trans child' had yet to be invented.

I have no idea why this was deleted but the uk trans subreddit is full of users teaching other users how to DIY hormones. It is their go to message. You should be aware that this is very much an option she may take.

Nice bit of misgendering there @BeeSouriante - I thought that was a hate crime?

The OP’s daughter is female and there has been no mention of her using non-sex based pronouns.

Is she thinking that because she is good at 'boy subjects'? Sorry I don't like the term but it fits here.

Of course. It’s obvious from the OP’s posts that she cares about, and doesn’t reject, her daughter. But if your daughter was talking about jumping off a cliff and starting to walk towards the edge, you wouldn’t just give them a squeeze and tell them you’ll be there for them whatever happens.

Well said bee

The pressure to adopt a label is very strong, and 'asexual' seems to be the label for those who want to distance themselves from sex altogether. I have an adult son who I have always sensed is gay, he is also on the spectrum and is pretty much 'asexual' in practice ( not involved in romantic/sexual relationships)
The vast majority of young women adopting trans identities and starting hormones will be same sex attracted.

What are her interests and hobbies. Has she always be androgynous inclined; not comfortable with 'girly' stuff?

Have any of the friends started taking hormones or had surgery...or is it a matter of adopting 'Non binary' identities? Are they lesbians.....is your daughter a lesbian?

The 'post trans' one is good, because she might find someone else whose story she can relate to.

She's obviously been inducted into radicalised campus politics and in a bid to make friends ( not always that easy for those on the spectrum) is trying to align herself with the circulating themes. Autistic people are very susceptible to 'trans' messaging.

Which university if you don't mind me asking?

Trying to teach mothers how to mother now?