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Birdsinginginthetrees · 28/06/2025 16:14

Just saw this on Facebook and am wondering what they are aiming for to achieve from it. It feels like they are trying to jump on to a bandwagon.

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hennybeans · 05/07/2025 15:56

See I actually like that jacket. If they showed it on a model in her 30s-40s styled with a plain dress, sandals and a pretty necklace, it would be right up my street. I would seriously consider getting one. But styled like that and worn by a man, nothing more could put me of that outfit.

PrettyDamnCosmic · 05/07/2025 15:42

BadSkiingMum · 05/07/2025 15:36

Tatler: celebrating trans and non binary people.

In other news:

Tatler: Hugo Humphington-Smythe, the new Earl of Custard, tells us how he is enjoying life at his newly-inherited stately home, the magnificent Humphington Hall. Meet Custard-shire’s most eligible bachelor and his lovely sister Lady Amelia, who shows us her cosy cottage on the estate.

Identity only goes so far, doesn’t it.

More to the point

Tatler: Helena (formerly Hugo) Humphington-Smythe, the new Countess of Custard, tells us how she is enjoying life at her newly-inherited stately home, the magnificent Humphington Hall. Meet Custard-shire’s most eligible spinster and her lovely older sister Lady Amelia, who shows us her cosy cottage on the estate.

BadSkiingMum · 05/07/2025 15:36

Tatler: celebrating trans and non binary people.

In other news:

Tatler: Hugo Humphington-Smythe, the new Earl of Custard, tells us how he is enjoying life at his newly-inherited stately home, the magnificent Humphington Hall. Meet Custard-shire’s most eligible bachelor and his lovely sister Lady Amelia, who shows us her cosy cottage on the estate.

Identity only goes so far, doesn’t it.

RedToothBrush · 05/07/2025 15:14

I thought elephant poaching and importation of elephant hides was illegal.

HobnobsChoice · 05/07/2025 15:08

His posture in the Ascot picture looks absolutely awful. Other pictures show the same whenever he is wearing women's cut jackets which makes me think that they simply aren't broad enough in the shoulder for him and he's forced to hunch into them so he can get them on. It's not flattering and makes the clothes hang oddly. When he was younger he had a bit of a New Romantic air going on. With age and weight gain the clothing proportions just don't fit him at all well so jackets and jumpers are too short. And he's very fond of a high collar which is never a great look with a fatter chin. I speak from personal experience

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Boudiccaofsteel · 05/07/2025 14:41

hipsterfun · 29/06/2025 23:06

I’d bloody love dresses longer in the torso. See also one-piece swimwear Angry

I agree. As a tall not skinny woman with broad size 9 feet it's incredibly annoying that brands manage to find stuff to fit males but I have problems finding a size 9 quality shoe for work or evening that doesn't look cheap or orthopaedic

GargoylesofBeelzebub · 01/07/2025 06:11

Does he watch Emily in Paris for his style inspo? 😬😬

Justwrong68 · 01/07/2025 05:06

TheCatsTongue · 28/06/2025 20:52

How exactly did this geezer get to be Tatler's style editor?

Suffice to say Tatler must have a bruised back from so many pats

Grammarnut · 30/06/2025 23:01

Purplecatshopaholic · 28/06/2025 16:17

Oh dear. Lol. Not a brand I buy anyway due to his links with fox hunting, but it’s clear I am not missing out!

That's the worst outfit I have seen in a long time.

OneWildandWonderfulLife · 29/06/2025 23:25

NooNakedJacuzziness · 28/06/2025 21:25

Could Chandler BE wearing more hideous clothes?

Perfect!😂

hipsterfun · 29/06/2025 23:06

Dwimmer · 29/06/2025 12:16

I think it is that men are hopelessly stereotyped in their aspirations and self image but women are more likely to seperate the dress from the wearer so can see a man in a dress and think ‘those sleeves are great’

When I see a man in a dress being sold for women I immediately think ‘cut’. A dress that is cut to fit a man would not fit a woman - it would be too long in the torso, too broad across the shoulders, too narrow at the hips, too long in the sleeves, ill fitting at the waste, and hopeless at the bust. Any clothing supplier who doesn’t understand the difference is shape between men and women does not deserve my business.

I’d bloody love dresses longer in the torso. See also one-piece swimwear Angry

BundleBoogie · 29/06/2025 22:51

PennyAnnLane · 28/06/2025 22:41

I assume he lost a bet?

This has got to be the answer. One of those posh kid pranks.

StupidTrolleyThing · 29/06/2025 22:50

Christ what a clown

Supersimkin7 · 29/06/2025 22:44

Fuck no

Carriemac · 29/06/2025 22:01

Unsubscribed from Boden , had been meaning to do a while but that crap made up my mind

KiIIingMeDeftly · 29/06/2025 16:56

That's one thing he has in common with Chandler Bing then!

HappyNewTaxYear · 29/06/2025 16:30

He grew up with a transgender parent? Which one? The one who supplied the sperm, or the one who supplied the egg?

I bet I can guess which, though…

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/06/2025 13:37

ArabellaScott · 28/06/2025 20:37

'I was lucky to grow up with a transgender parent, so labels and pronouns have felt less important to me than some. Coming of age in an environment where I could experiment with wearing dresses, make-up, wigs and even fake breasts, I came to the conclusion quite early on that I was neither a man nor a woman, and that that is completely fine. It’s a privilege that so many young people don’t have access to.'
'While I’ve never felt I’ve had to prove my non-binary identity to anyone, in recent years assumptions that I’m cisgendered have been more recurrent due to natural progressions in a male-born body ambiguously approaching its thirties.'

https://www.tatler.com/article/royal-ascot-non-binary-dress-code

Brainwashed from early childhood, from the sound of it.

I am not a denizen of S&B, but can't the stylists at Tatler give this chap some tips on how to make his hair look less messy?

Davros · 29/06/2025 13:14

They still talk about “men’s” and “women’s’ clothing/fit in the Sewing Bee to my great surprise

Dwimmer · 29/06/2025 12:16

I think it is that men are hopelessly stereotyped in their aspirations and self image but women are more likely to seperate the dress from the wearer so can see a man in a dress and think ‘those sleeves are great’

When I see a man in a dress being sold for women I immediately think ‘cut’. A dress that is cut to fit a man would not fit a woman - it would be too long in the torso, too broad across the shoulders, too narrow at the hips, too long in the sleeves, ill fitting at the waste, and hopeless at the bust. Any clothing supplier who doesn’t understand the difference is shape between men and women does not deserve my business.

SigourneyHoward · 29/06/2025 09:35

It’s clear from reading the linked Tatler article that NB status doesn’t extend to writing styles. I was left in no doubt as to the sex of the author.

Coatsoff42 · 29/06/2025 09:10

IDontHateRainbows · 29/06/2025 07:55

A transman , or any woman, can dress like a man without it being anything to write home about.
Trouser suit? Tick
Trackies and hoody? Tick

I mean, what men's apparel could a tm.wesr that would be in any way controversial?

Yes, it’s not controversial, is that why transmen are not really in advertising as models? It’s not shocking, Justin beiber is pretty and slender, it’s not unusual or controversial. And BTS are the same.

But how shocking can it be to see men wearing women’s clothes now? Are people not bored of it yet? I think its a bit done now.

I think maybe this man is interesting because of what he chooses to put together, rather than just wearing women’s clothes, it’s not my cup of tea, but each to their own, and I guess it’s Tatlers cup of tea.

Datun · 29/06/2025 08:00

I knew it looked familiar

zanahoria · 29/06/2025 07:59

CapabilityBrownsHaHa · 28/06/2025 16:27

I mean, if you're a pre-schooler.....

Poor Elmer

He has enough problems without being dragged into this

IDontHateRainbows · 29/06/2025 07:55

Coatsoff42 · 29/06/2025 07:41

I don’t mind that man wearing whatever he likes, I think he is interesting.
Theres rarely any transmen doing this gender fluid dressing for brands though. It would be interesting to see what the advertising thinking behind that is?

Do transmen just look like women in ordinary clothes?
Do shopping men find it completely un helpful in buying clothes to see transwomen wearing them?
Do men prefer to buy clothes advertised by manly manly men? Is that their aspiration?
Is it not enough of a visual impact to be an eye catching picture for a brand, unlike say a bearded man in a Las Vegas showgirl type outfit?

I think it is that men are hopelessly stereotyped in their aspirations and self image but women are more likely to seperate the dress from the wearer so can see a man in a dress and think ‘those sleeves are great’

A transman , or any woman, can dress like a man without it being anything to write home about.
Trouser suit? Tick
Trackies and hoody? Tick

I mean, what men's apparel could a tm.wesr that would be in any way controversial?