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Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

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DiamondThrone · 28/06/2025 00:01

No. Neither have I.

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Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:50

murasaki · 29/06/2025 17:48

There's a thread in feminism chat by a woman who was in a ward post a gynae op and very vulnerable, with a transwoman who told the nurses he had had no surgery. Happy with that?

Am I happy with what?

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:49

Shedmistress · 29/06/2025 17:46

One woman was raped on a single sex ward and withheld video evidence from the police for a whole year whilst they refused to admit that a man was placed on there. They said it couldn't have happened because there were no men on the ward.

It's the fact that they are men that are the issue.

It's well known that most sexual crimes are committed by men. It doesn't change my feelings on who I would feel most unsafe around.

murasaki · 29/06/2025 17:48

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:41

Ok. Personally I have no issue with sharing a ward with a transgender person. The only time I wouldnt be happy is sharing with someone who clearly needed to be in a secure hospital instead. That would make me feel unsafe

There's a thread in feminism chat by a woman who was in a ward post a gynae op and very vulnerable, with a transwoman who told the nurses he had had no surgery. Happy with that?

Shedmistress · 29/06/2025 17:48

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:08

Extreme as in more than the usual negativity found on MN.

Oh no, not NEGATIVITY. Such extremism!

Shedmistress · 29/06/2025 17:46

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:41

Ok. Personally I have no issue with sharing a ward with a transgender person. The only time I wouldnt be happy is sharing with someone who clearly needed to be in a secure hospital instead. That would make me feel unsafe

One woman was raped on a single sex ward and withheld video evidence from the police for a whole year whilst they refused to admit that a man was placed on there. They said it couldn't have happened because there were no men on the ward.

It's the fact that they are men that are the issue.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:41

JanesLittleGirl · 29/06/2025 17:36

Erm... Most hospital trusts claim to provide single sex wards while having a policy of accommodating patients on the ward that aligns with their gender identity.

Ok. Personally I have no issue with sharing a ward with a transgender person. The only time I wouldnt be happy is sharing with someone who clearly needed to be in a secure hospital instead. That would make me feel unsafe

JanesLittleGirl · 29/06/2025 17:36

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:31

Im sure most would prefer it. Most hospitals try to avoid mixed where possible.

Erm... Most hospital trusts claim to provide single sex wards while having a policy of accommodating patients on the ward that aligns with their gender identity.

BettyBooper · 29/06/2025 17:35

Flags flags Glastonbury flags.

There's fewer trans flags now because it's no longer as popular. Loads more people have seen that it's nonsense and are backing away slowly.

The ones who were into it to be in the in crowd have now taken up other flag(s) instead 🤷.

People have moved on. It isn't edgy anymore, just a bit cringe.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:31

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 17:24

I think you said mixed sex wasnt ideal. I was asking whether single sex is preferable?

Im sure most would prefer it. Most hospitals try to avoid mixed where possible.

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 17:24

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:23

I answered that earlier

I think you said mixed sex wasnt ideal. I was asking whether single sex is preferable?

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:23

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 17:22

Hospital wards?

I answered that earlier

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 17:22

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:19

Lockable areas yes for when you are using the toilet or changing for example

Hospital wards?

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:19

Enough4me · 29/06/2025 17:16

You understand biology, so you must agree single-sex facilities are needed due to biology.

Lockable areas yes for when you are using the toilet or changing for example

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:17

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 29/06/2025 17:15

crikey, you've been at this since 8am this morning.

your posting style gives me an inkling about why you're at quite such a loose end on a sunny sunday

I'm sat in my garden enjoying said sunny day whilst looking at my phone. And you?

Enough4me · 29/06/2025 17:16

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:15

I don't disagree with the biology either. I'm definitely not the airy fairy type who thinks you can be a potato if you wish it hard enough.

You understand biology, so you must agree single-sex facilities are needed due to biology.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:15

lady69 · 29/06/2025 17:11

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I don't disagree with the biology either. I'm definitely not the airy fairy type who thinks you can be a potato if you wish it hard enough.

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 29/06/2025 17:15

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:12

No I think a better understanding from you is in order! If you cant tell me why you think I'm a homophobe then I think it's obvious you now realise its nonsense

crikey, you've been at this since 8am this morning.

your posting style gives me an inkling about why you're at quite such a loose end on a sunny sunday

lady69 · 29/06/2025 17:14

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 16:52

My opinions and views havent changed. I know that on this thread the majority would think differently to me. I've often looked at threads under this topic and know it's the most extreme corner of mumsnet thinking.

You are mistaken. Just everyday women here, Unless you are thinking we are unusual and uppity! Which would say a lot more about you than you’d probably like to admit…

“Transwomen are men” isn’t extremism It’s the truth, enshrined in law and based in reality. I hope that helps.

Noodledog · 29/06/2025 17:13

Talkinpeace · 29/06/2025 17:02

There may be trans flags waved in the crowd

but the stickers on the Block 9 mural show that lots of sane women were / are at the festival

That's interesting, what were the stickers?

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:12

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 29/06/2025 17:09

and I won't be doing that other than pointing you at an existing very clear explanation of why you come across as a homophobe

sad times for you

maybe some introspection on how to come across as less of a homophobic bigot is in order?

No I think a better understanding from you is in order! If you cant tell me why you think I'm a homophobe then I think it's obvious you now realise its nonsense

lady69 · 29/06/2025 17:11

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BernardBlacksMolluscs · 29/06/2025 17:09

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:06

I dont need to read anyone else's posts to determine whether I'm a homophobic person. I'm waiting for you to justify calling me that.

and I won't be doing that other than pointing you at an existing very clear explanation of why you come across as a homophobe

sad times for you

maybe some introspection on how to come across as less of a homophobic bigot is in order?

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:08

Shedmistress · 29/06/2025 17:06

Oh come on. It's literally only been weeks since we could even say that.

Anything resembling 'extremism' would have been reported, deleted and the poser banned.

Extreme as in more than the usual negativity found on MN.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:06

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 29/06/2025 17:03

you'll be waiting a long time for me to dance to your tune chicken

I suggest you re-read *CassOle's *post

I dont need to read anyone else's posts to determine whether I'm a homophobic person. I'm waiting for you to justify calling me that.

Shedmistress · 29/06/2025 17:06

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 17:03

No that's not the reason for noticing how extreme it gets on these thread topics

Oh come on. It's literally only been weeks since we could even say that.

Anything resembling 'extremism' would have been reported, deleted and the poser banned.

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