Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

Where did I say I think all men are amazing? I know that men are behind most violent and sexual crime. As I keep repeating it doesn't mean I feel anxious around men I dont know and it doesmt mean sex is the only factor I use in determining how safe I feel with someone. I also dont base my life decisions on posts ive read on places like mumsnet.

I have some amazing men in my life. That does not make me naive stupid enough to think all men are amazing. Have you done any reading of the myriad, intelligent, well researched posts going back years on this board, as you were recommended to many pages back? No? Thought not.........

I'm around men almost every day of my life. I'm starting to feel like some people on here dont interact with men at all.

I also know from your posts that you have zero idea how prisons work or about the risk management involved.

You are out of your depth here and you should thank your lucky stars that other, much wiser, much braver women than you are willing to put the work in to protect all women.

Enjoy your beverage in the garden.

You've either been incredibly lucky, or you're incredibly naive. Or just stirring.

Just watching a bit of Rod Stewart. Saw a sign I thought said 'Trans for Rod'. Then the camera zoomed in and it said 'Nans for Rod'

Well that's your thoughts. I genuinely don't feel scared or nervous or anxious around men I dont know simply because they are men. It's how they act, their eyes, what they say, their body language, the vibe/6th sense I get from them.

Ok, but again, we are discussing how the law and prisons should work.

Your understandably emotional reaction to your mother being murdered by another woman is not a useful basis on which to base public policy.

It’s why we have judges and juries to make sure there is parity between punishment for similar offences.

As I said above, the threat of sexual violence is not acceptable as a form of punishment in any civilised society.

Well what we're all doing here is making sure that this doesn't happen to your (hypothetical) friend. Whatever she's locked up for.

We're moving the man to a different cell.

To a different prison, so not in any woman's cell.

I meant if she had for example murdered my mother in cold blood- no I wouldnt give a toss about her cell mates.

Ffs honestly. Can you really not grasp what I'm saying about for me sex doesnt come into determining how safe I feel around a person. Can you at least take that on board.

Firstly it would depend what she was in prison for. Secondly I would hope that she wouldn't be sharing with a man. I dont have any idea how the system works but if she found herself with a man I would try and help her or the man get moved to a different cell, if possible.

I agree that we can make judgements about people that we know personally that take other things into account about who to trust.

But when dealing with strangers, the risk assessment only falls one way. We have no other knowledge of the person than their sex. It doesn’t mean that most men are not decent human beings. But for those who are not, you can’t defend yourself if they choose to do you harm. And men are way more likely to use their physical strength against another person. And indulge in voyeurism, indecent exposure and other paraphilias.

Do you understand the difference between people you know and people you don’t know?

I didnt say I deemed men safer than women. I said that's not the main factor to me when deciding how safe someone is to me.

Like you say it will be based on statistics so it's up to the people with access to all the correct information to make up the laws.

Why cant you believe me? Think about any nice man you know. Picture him in your head. Now think of a female person you wouldnt trust (I'm being careful how I word this so as not to offend). Now imagine waking up beside both of them in hospital. Are you honestly saying that simply because the woman was female you would feel safer beside her?

Why would it depend on her crime???

Sentencing does NOT include additional punishment in the form of being made to share a cell with a man. That is not how our justice system works. Should threat of sexual violence be part of women’s punishment? I doubt that is legal under international law.

Just watching a bit of Rod Stewart. Saw a sign I thought said 'Trans for Rod'. Then the camera zoomed in and it said 'Nans for Rod'

Firstly it would depend what she was in prison for. Secondly I would hope that she wouldn't be sharing with a man. I dont have any idea how the system works but if she found herself with a man I would try and help her or the man get moved to a different cell, if possible.