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Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

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DiamondThrone · 28/06/2025 00:01

No. Neither have I.

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CassOle · 28/06/2025 18:53

Human beings cannot change sex. Cross-sex hormones and surgery are just body modifications, every single person who does that remains the same sex they have always been

Thankfully, some people do care about female prisoners. No males should be put in female prisons.

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 18:47

Greyskybluesky · 28/06/2025 18:18

Trans people are either female or male. Not a third category

Sorry I meant people who stay their birth sex must surely massively outweigh the number of people who change their sex

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 18:37

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 18:18

Maybe instead of imagining, you should actually look into the subject. One trans identified male in a women’s prison, as just one example, would affect every woman in the same facility he came into contact with. Ditto changing rooms, women’s sports, shelters, and so on, and it’s pretty easy to see how big the impact actually is.

Well im not sure I care if people who have committed crimes and are in prison are upset about a trans person inside. Sports seem to be doing a good job overall with their rules on trans. Changing rooms well the local swimming pool here has been one changing area for all for many years as it happens.

kittensinthekitchen · 28/06/2025 18:36

Wow the homophoia is dazzling on this one.

My fault for not realising this was in 'women's rights' when I clicked on it in trending.

Conkerjar · 28/06/2025 18:25

Shortshriftandlethal · 28/06/2025 10:47

What are the ods that Billy Bragg makes a thing of it at his set on the 'Leftfield stage'?

Anonhi ( formerly Anthony) And the Johnsons are playing too

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Can't see Anhoni mentioned now without remembering the Maria Abramovic dessy island discs with Loz Laverne. MA referred to Anonhi as 'he' because she was talking about past tense. LL couldn't wait to pounce on her to correct the gender, which she acknowledged later anyway, saying he'd transitioned. I'm really glad LL is back on the radio after cancer treatment, genuinely, but I did consider billing her for eyeroll reversal surgery.

Greyskybluesky · 28/06/2025 18:18

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 18:12

Yes there are certainly a lot more females and males in the world than trans so I cant imagine trans will have a big impact on most people's lives.

Trans people are either female or male. Not a third category

DrowningInSyrup · 28/06/2025 18:18

myplace · 28/06/2025 07:03

It came up at a very ordinary ground floor church meeting the other day- Elders, not youth
church. So it’s truly over 🤣

Our vicar's partner is trans.

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 18:18

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 18:12

Yes there are certainly a lot more females and males in the world than trans so I cant imagine trans will have a big impact on most people's lives.

Maybe instead of imagining, you should actually look into the subject. One trans identified male in a women’s prison, as just one example, would affect every woman in the same facility he came into contact with. Ditto changing rooms, women’s sports, shelters, and so on, and it’s pretty easy to see how big the impact actually is.

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 18:12

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 18:08

I have no ideas because Glastonbury isn’t my thing. I assume it was noticeable enough for the OP to comment though.

I’m not sure the hard part is done either, certainly not for the trans side. Women keep winning.

Yes there are certainly a lot more females and males in the world than trans so I cant imagine trans will have a big impact on most people's lives.

Shedmistress · 28/06/2025 18:11

I saw an old friend who is a mayor posting about the pride celebrations last week and not one progress flag amongst it. All the old style rainbows.

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 18:08

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 18:06

Was it ever full on trans? Maybe people just dont feel the need to fight for it so much now? The hard part is done.

I have no ideas because Glastonbury isn’t my thing. I assume it was noticeable enough for the OP to comment though.

I’m not sure the hard part is done either, certainly not for the trans side. Women keep winning.

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 18:06

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 18:00

Exactly so it’s a good cross-section, and if it used to be full of trans flags and now it isn’t, that shows a shift in how people are thinking on the trans issue. Of course, it’s not hugely important. No one said it was.

Was it ever full on trans? Maybe people just dont feel the need to fight for it so much now? The hard part is done.

PachacutisBadAuntie · 28/06/2025 18:05

dementedpixie · 28/06/2025 10:25

There's a big billboard at Glastonbury by Led by Donkeys where they are sending people they dont like to Mars. JKR is in the picture.

Interesting that the Guardian don't mention her in the article though, whilst naming most (all?) of the others.

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 18:05

Sskka · 28/06/2025 18:00

@Eagle2025 How come you’re posting about it?

Posting about what?

Screamingabdabz · 28/06/2025 18:02

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:56

Ok I don't have any of those issues where I live. Doesnt even get talked about.

🙄

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 18:00

Exactly so it’s a good cross-section, and if it used to be full of trans flags and now it isn’t, that shows a shift in how people are thinking on the trans issue. Of course, it’s not hugely important. No one said it was.

Sskka · 28/06/2025 18:00

@Eagle2025 How come you’re posting about it?

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:58

DialSquare · 28/06/2025 17:53

What does it matter if people are actively looking for flags at a festival. How does that affect you?

It's just bizarre to me why it's of any importance. All sorts of different people attend Glastonbury

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:57

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:56

Ok I don't have any of those issues where I live. Doesnt even get talked about.

Oh, so if it doesn’t affect you, no one should care about it?

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:56

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:51

Well it affects me when I don’t have access to single sex changing rooms, toilets, rape crisis services etc. I could go on, but I think you already know.

Ok I don't have any of those issues where I live. Doesnt even get talked about.

DialSquare · 28/06/2025 17:53

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:36

What does it matter what flags people wave at a music festival. Why are you actively looking for certain flags.

What does it matter if people are actively looking for flags at a festival. How does that affect you?

CrackingOn50 · 28/06/2025 17:53

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 28/06/2025 17:24

Pardon me? Birth workers? As in paid surrogates?

There was another image/poster aimed at midwives etc that used the term 'birth workers'

MarieDeGournay · 28/06/2025 17:52

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:48

In what way does trans ideology affect you? Just curious as I've never thought about it

I suggest you do a bit of reading Eagle2025- there are years and years of posts on here about how exactly trans ideology is affecting women.
But if you've never thought about it, you're unlikely to start now.

May I suggest that we leave Eagle2025 where we found them, and let them get up to speed on the issues by themselves, if they want to?

Meanwhile, enjoy Glasto, Eagle!

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:51

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:48

In what way does trans ideology affect you? Just curious as I've never thought about it

Well it affects me when I don’t have access to single sex changing rooms, toilets, rape crisis services etc. I could go on, but I think you already know.

Eagle2025 · 28/06/2025 17:48

LeungandLau · 28/06/2025 17:42

Well those of us who care about the overreach of trans ideology might find it interesting to see the lie of the land, no?

I don’t watch Glastonbury, a bit too bland for me, but if it’s been wall to wall trans flags in previous years and now not so much, that indicated a change.

In what way does trans ideology affect you? Just curious as I've never thought about it