Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

The odd trans person. Here’s selection of these odd trans people in prison , from Canada. These ladies are ‘odd’ at best..

Everyone stays their birth sex.

I know that the language is confusing, but transmen are female and should be in female prisons if they are jailed. I would hope that a risk assessment is done and common sense applied if a transman has been taking testosterone, but they should not be put in a male prison. To do so would be extremely dangerous IMO.

Let them speak never fails to deliver...

I've got plenty things to worry about above the goings on in prisons. Horrendous things have been going on in prisons long before the odd trans person made the headlines. People get beaten up, murdered, isolated, develop mental health issues, the list goes on. I don't spend my time worrying about prisoners no. Dont want to go to prison? Dont comit fraud.

Another ‘I don’t care but I’m going to post a lot to show how much I don’t care but simultaneously show I know hee haw about the issue I don’t care or see a problem about’.

I’m not against them. I’m against males who identify as women being in female spaces. I’m against all males in female spaces. I’m treating them just the same as I treat everyone else.

We're not "against trans people" we're against males in female spaces, regardless of how they identify or how nice they are

Tell me you haven’t got a clue what you are taking about without telling me you haven’t got a clue what you are taking about.

But if those “bad apples” are transwomen you support them in being allowed to get their own way and get into female prisons.

You honestly don’t care that women get locked up with males, raped and degraded, because they might committed fraud or something? Wow.

You cant be against trans people just because some trans people are bad.

In the good old days, flags in the crowd at Glastonbury were for finding your friends
(hello Captain Pugwash people or the bloomer brigade)

Now its idiots with roach poles flying slogan flags in front of the cameras.

THe sooner security bring in flag size and height limits the better

Waving flags in support of trans people is an entirely different thing to whether the government allows trans men into female prisons. People can support and be open to all walks of life, it doesnt mean they support the bad apples of the world.

Reminds me of Jo Whiley the other day, playing an absolutely rubbish new song by Kate (now Kae) Tempest. Made sure to get in the fact she was now a "he", lots of breathless plaudits, etc.

Followed it straight up with You Can't Always Get What You Want by the Stones 😁

So all the women who’ve literally been affected by it are just lying? Just because you haven’t experienced anything negative doesn’t mean you can just dismiss all the very real concerns.

It doesnt have a disproportionate effect on the rest of us. A lot of people dont give a toss about trans people other than finding it a bit weird or confusing. Although im sure they would have a higher chance of being ostracised by other men. Same way gay men used to be.

"If none of this stuff matters, as you say, then why can’t trans people just stick to the spaces for their own sex?"

Agreed. Or use unisex facilities (where appropriate and possible).

I went to Glastonbury years ago and my group made a flag saying ‘NOT MY DAD’ on it. It was a great place marker for our camping spot!

Wow, Eagle, are you really arguing the following?

'There are male members of staff, so who cares about having male prisoners in female prisons? It's such a tiny number, after all.'

What Karen White did should have put an end to this cruel experiment long ago (and TBH, it should never have happened in the first place).

I don’t think there should be male staff, but I also don’t think there should be transwomen because they’re just as male. Many of us have actually campaigned for all female prisons for decades, you know.

a lot of changing rooms don’t have lockable booths, and the ones that do usually have gaps. Voyeurism is massively on the rise and mainly perpetrated by males.

That minuscule amount has a disproportionate impact on the rest of us, especially women. And of course, anyone can say they’re trans and be given access. Oh, and one predator can have countless victims.

We’ve been through all of this a million times. At the end of the day, men are men and women are women and they have different needs and vulnerabilities.

If none of this stuff matters, as you say, then why can’t trans people just stick to the spaces for their own sex?

Well surely the bigger issue in prisons is having male members of staff. If we are talking about females being attacked by males in prisons.

The changing rooms all have lockable changing booths, it's not like you have to get changed in front of everyone.

Is it not less than 1% of people in the UK that are trans? Nothing to be worried about. And then it's not like all trans people are predators or sports competitors? So it's a minuscule amount.

Homophobia? I don’t see any mentions of homosexuality at all on this thread, good or bad.

Where is the homophobia babe?

Oh, and humans can’t change their sex.

Jesus, so you don’t care about the women who have been assaulted and raped in prisons because they’ve committed a crime, bearing in mind that most women are imprisoned for non-violent crimes.

Sports, literally hundreds of women have lost out to men.

Changing rooms, if they say single-sex that’s what they should be for the safety and privacy of women. If women want to used a mixed changing space, fine, but many do not or cannot.

You don’t seem to have much empathy for women.

Edit to add, not that I think being raped is ever an appropriate punishment. Some people.