Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

Women who work in male prisons may have to strip search male prisoners anyway e.g emergency situations. I dont think the possibility of the odd transwoman in a female prison needing strip searched is going to put off women pursuing a career in the prison service.

If they have male genitalia they go to male prisons now. It's all done on a case by case basis.

Well maybe they can build trans prisons then! Something for everyone. And lesbian prisons just in case any lesbians attack the non lesbian prisoners.

Females dont have male genitalia

Transmen with bits of arm/leg attached to their nether regions aren't men
Transwomen with their bits inverted aren't women

Ok sorry trans woman! What about male trans does that work?

Female prisons are for Females, if you put males in them, they they cease to be Female prisons but mixed sex prisons. Its that simple, there really isn't any room for arguments.

If they have male genitalia they go to male prisons now. It's all done on a case by case basis.

If they have male genitalia they go to male prisons now. It's all done on a case by case basis.

If they have male genitalia they go to male prisons now. It's all done on a case by case basis.

Or men could just go in the men’s prison where they belong

Yes I have heard of miscarriages of justice. So now we are down to the thinnest hair of both a trans man being in a womans prison and him then attacking a wrongfully accused woman.

Women who work in male prisons may have to strip search male prisoners anyway e.g emergency situations. I dont think the possibility of the odd transwoman in a female prison needing strip searched is going to put off women pursuing a career in the prison service.

I'm not just concerned about a trans-identified male attacking women in prison, I'm also concerned that women prisoners shouldn't be sharing accommodation with males. Even if there is no attack, most such males are not gay so there's the risk of voyeurism. Also, female prison staff shouldn't be expected to strip search or pat down male prisoners, regardless of how the male identifies. I'd also like to be reassured that there are no male prison staff identifying as female being given the green light to pat down and strip search female inmates.

All so needlessly complicated. We used to have this sorted.

Yes I have heard of miscarriages of justice. So now we are down to the thinnest hair of both a trans man being in a womans prison and him then attacking a wrongfully accused woman.

You've been told this before, but a 'trans man' is a woman (as in a woman who identifies as a man).

Yes I have heard of miscarriages of justice. So now we are down to the thinnest hair of both a trans man being in a womans prison and him then attacking a wrongfully accused woman.

You might perhaps have heard of miscarriages of justice. They do happen from time to time. But even the women who have committed the crimes they've been convicted of deserve to be given humane conditions in prison. It's not supposed to be a hellhole that turns criminals into even more damaged and dysfunctional people than they were before they went in.

Spotted this watching Alanis Morrisette today at Glastonbury on BBC

I've got plenty things to worry about above the goings on in prisons. Horrendous things have been going on in prisons long before the odd trans person made the headlines. People get beaten up, murdered, isolated, develop mental health issues, the list goes on. I don't spend my time worrying about prisoners no. Dont want to go to prison? Dont comit fraud.

We're all aghast at what's happening in Gaza. However, what this refers to is groups like Queers for Palestine. There appears to be a total lack of understanding that the Middle Eastern country with the best record on LGBTQ+ rights is Israel. Most of the others are places where being openly gay would put you at risk of imprisonment and/or violence. Life is complicated. We shouldn't be trying to oversimplify it.

So what does it matter what the current mood is amongst festival goers?

Yes! Can you imagine if your colleague had claimed you’d committed a hate incident and got you fired? For simply saying the words “you shouldn’t be in here - you’re a man” to them in the women’s changing room!?

Yes what kind of a prick would you need to be to make such a fuss that someone lost their job! I've had fallings out with someone at work once but it didnt go any higher, it was just between the two of us and eventually resolved itself.