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Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

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DiamondThrone · 28/06/2025 00:01

No. Neither have I.

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CassOle · 29/06/2025 10:57

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:54

I know what the phrase implies 🙄

Really? That didn't come across in your post.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:54

CassOle · 29/06/2025 10:51

It's a common phrase and despite being an athiest, it really does sum up my thoughts about your ignorant, or possibly mendacious (and in one case, homophobic) posts.

To help you out, here is an explanation of the term in its slang usage.

"The slang term "Jesus Wept" is often used as an expression of disbelief, disappointment, or frustration."

https://www.fastslang.com/jesus-wept

I know what the phrase implies 🙄

BettyBooper · 29/06/2025 10:53

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:51

As I said a very unfortunate situation. That this woman had suffered a specific event which triggered PTSD, that there was no one else that could have done the job, that the guy masturbated a lot. Unfortunate story.

And, as I said, easily avoided by not putting a man in a women's prison.

BettyBooper · 29/06/2025 10:51

SaturdayNext · 29/06/2025 10:44

"And lesbian prisons just in case any lesbians attack the non lesbian prisoners."
Cut out the homophobia.

If this is homophobic, then it is transphobic to suggest that transpeople want to attack other prisoners.

When you rightly point out that there is a history of people claiming to be trans attacking other prisoners, you have to acknowledge that there is also a history of lesbians doing the same - including women who assume lesbian tendencies only when they are in prison.

Not trans people, men.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:51

BettyBooper · 29/06/2025 10:49

Easily avoided by not putting men in women's prison.

*Bangs head against wall

As I said a very unfortunate situation. That this woman had suffered a specific event which triggered PTSD, that there was no one else that could have done the job, that the guy masturbated a lot. Unfortunate story.

CassOle · 29/06/2025 10:51

It's a common phrase and despite being an athiest, it really does sum up my thoughts about your ignorant, or possibly mendacious (and in one case, homophobic) posts.

To help you out, here is an explanation of the term in its slang usage.

"The slang term "Jesus Wept" is often used as an expression of disbelief, disappointment, or frustration."

https://www.fastslang.com/jesus-wept

BettyBooper · 29/06/2025 10:49

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:37

Well yes if she was the only member of staff available and the job needed doing then it's a very unfortunate situation

Easily avoided by not putting men in women's prison.

*Bangs head against wall

SaturdayNext · 29/06/2025 10:44

"And lesbian prisons just in case any lesbians attack the non lesbian prisoners."
Cut out the homophobia.

If this is homophobic, then it is transphobic to suggest that transpeople want to attack other prisoners.

When you rightly point out that there is a history of people claiming to be trans attacking other prisoners, you have to acknowledge that there is also a history of lesbians doing the same - including women who assume lesbian tendencies only when they are in prison.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:43

CassOle · 29/06/2025 10:40

Jesus wept.

Jesus 😆

CassOle · 29/06/2025 10:40

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:30

Have you interviewed the women? Your just going to assume its impossible for a woman to want sex whilst locked up for years. Not all women are victims in this world.

Jesus wept.

SaturdayNext · 29/06/2025 10:38

DiamondThrone · 28/06/2025 10:37

Inclusive lot, aren't they?

Speaking to the Guardian, the Led By Donkeys collective – Ben Stewart, James Sadri, Oliver Knowles and Will Rose

All male, all white.

All white? That'll come as news to James Sadri.

They are simply the founders. It's a much bigger group now, including people from all sectors of society.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:37

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 10:35

She asked to excused from this task because of he past history but was threatened with losing her job

Well yes if she was the only member of staff available and the job needed doing then it's a very unfortunate situation

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 10:35

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:34

What a very unfortunate set of circumstances! Prison work can be tough. Same with being in the police force or other emergency services, if you have suffered in life you may encounter something which triggers you.

She asked to excused from this task because of he past history but was threatened with losing her job

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:34

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 10:03

Female prison. She was made to do an observation on a trans-identified male inmate who had recently been transferred to the women’s prison. It ended up being a 12 hour shift where she had to watch CCTV and record when he ate, used the loo and masterbated. He apparently did the latter a lot. There wasn’t a male officer available because it was a female prison.

What a very unfortunate set of circumstances! Prison work can be tough. Same with being in the police force or other emergency services, if you have suffered in life you may encounter something which triggers you.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:30

CassOle · 29/06/2025 10:06

"And lesbian prisons just in case any lesbians attack the non lesbian prisoners."

Cut out the homophobia.

"Consensual sex?"

Fucking Hell. That is one of the grimmest questions I have read. You have women locked up with a male and you can't imagine that there might be coercive control or other factors that render the idea of 'consensual' in that situation to be completely flawed.

Have you interviewed the women? Your just going to assume its impossible for a woman to want sex whilst locked up for years. Not all women are victims in this world.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 10:27

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/06/2025 09:57

Very fortunately indeed, hardly any males have this brutal surgery, which has a high risk of infection and doesn't produce anything comparable to female genitalia. As I understand, a high proportion of male prisoners who have a trans identity only declare this after they are charged or even imprisoned. Some of them may be sincere, but given that quite a number of them are registered sex offenders, there has to be a suspicion that some of them were trying it on in the hope of getting a cushier option than male prison, ready access to vulnerable women and also putting female prison officers in an uncomfortable position.

Yes the ones trying it on only declare they identify as trans after committing a crime and being charged. A man who at some point in his life had his penis and balls cut off did that for his own very personal reasons, not on the off chance that in the future he may commit a crime that would see him going to prison. With the new rules a man simply announcing they identify as trans will still go to a male prison.

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 10:19

Anyway…. Back to the thread…. Did anyone see the AHF flag on yesterday’s coverage? I was looking out for it. Is the woman ok?

CassOle · 29/06/2025 10:06

"And lesbian prisons just in case any lesbians attack the non lesbian prisoners."

Cut out the homophobia.

"Consensual sex?"

Fucking Hell. That is one of the grimmest questions I have read. You have women locked up with a male and you can't imagine that there might be coercive control or other factors that render the idea of 'consensual' in that situation to be completely flawed.

Annoyedone · 29/06/2025 10:05

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 09:27

Right so if they dont have male genitalia they will be in the womens prisons

Well yes. All females whatever they have done to their genitalia will be in the female prison and all males whatever they have done to their genitals will be in the male prison. Simple and elegant solution all round

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 10:03

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 09:38

Was she working in a male or female prison?

Female prison. She was made to do an observation on a trans-identified male inmate who had recently been transferred to the women’s prison. It ended up being a 12 hour shift where she had to watch CCTV and record when he ate, used the loo and masterbated. He apparently did the latter a lot. There wasn’t a male officer available because it was a female prison.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/06/2025 09:57

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 09:37

So you think a man will have his balls and penis mutilated just on the off chance that if he goes to prison he can go into a female prison? You don't think the decision will be based on pretty much everything but that.

Very fortunately indeed, hardly any males have this brutal surgery, which has a high risk of infection and doesn't produce anything comparable to female genitalia. As I understand, a high proportion of male prisoners who have a trans identity only declare this after they are charged or even imprisoned. Some of them may be sincere, but given that quite a number of them are registered sex offenders, there has to be a suspicion that some of them were trying it on in the hope of getting a cushier option than male prison, ready access to vulnerable women and also putting female prison officers in an uncomfortable position.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 09:38

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 09:31

Well apart from the female prison officer in Canada who ended up with PTSD due to having her past sexual abuse triggered. She ended up in a bad way and unable to work

Was she working in a male or female prison?

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 09:37

Shedmistress · 29/06/2025 09:31

Inverted male genitalia is still male genitalia.

So you think a man will have his balls and penis mutilated just on the off chance that if he goes to prison he can go into a female prison? You don't think the decision will be based on pretty much everything but that.

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 09:35

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 09:32

No that’s not the case yet. Especially in Scotland. There are various TIMs (known to be having sex with other female inmates) in prisons still

Consensual sex?

KnottyAuty · 29/06/2025 09:32

Eagle2025 · 29/06/2025 09:12

If they have male genitalia they go to male prisons now. It's all done on a case by case basis.

No that’s not the case yet. Especially in Scotland. There are various TIMs (known to be having sex with other female inmates) in prisons still

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