Wow. Have you seen all the Pride and Trans flags flying in the audiences at Glastonbury?

The ever attention seeking Travis Alabanza.

it's just a thought Barbs but rather than setting up a fund for people who feel morally unable to take money from the man to host a queer bingo night, maybe (and it's just a thought) you could get a fucking job

What was the name of that chap who wanted 'allies' to pay into his taxi fund so that he could travel round London 'safely'?

Southampton pride isn’t cancelled I don’t think….pride in the park has been

cor blimey Eresh, it's hard to know where to start with that article.

apparently residents of areas where pride parades have been cancelled are devastated (I am a resident of one such area and so far I'm holding up OK)

Apparently the fact that people can't afford to go to nightclubs is harming the 'queer community' in a way that isn't very clear to me. who knew you needed nightclubs to be gay?

apparently Pride month is like 'queer christmas' (direct quote), but opportunities to be paid for corporate rainbow coffee mornings or to tell horrified female employees about how wearing your sister's clothes made you feel dirty are drying up. "They’re taking all the money away." sad times

and in retaliation 'queer' performers are withdrawing their rainbow labour.

Community-led initiatives, such as the Pull Out For The LADs Fundraiser, have been cropping up to recoup the losses felt by performers who usually rely on corporate Pride gigs as a financial crutch. “If you’ve ever been stuck between selling your morals or taking a gig and you can’t afford to turn down work, especially in this climate, then this is a fund for you,” Barbs, a drag performer and one of the event’s organisers explains in an Instagram video.

it's just a thought Barbs but rather than setting up a fund for people who feel morally unable to take money from the man to host a queer bingo night, maybe (and it's just a thought) you could get a fucking job

crikey that mess of an article made me cross!

An article in Vogue blaming the Supreme Court decision, among other things, for a “quiet” Pride month.

https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/why-does-pride-month-feel-so-quiet-this-year

Disability Awareness Month (over 20% of the population) never gets the logo changes and flags ....

1st of July, most companies have now ditched their rainbow logos.

The Eagle hasn't landed if this thread is anything to go by 😉

Typical, complacent 'women don't matter' response.

No wonder so many people are rapidly going off this movement.

Only a few rainbow flags in my local Tesco and a couple of small progress flags next to the reduced products.
Sign of the times maybe?

You have no idea what you don't even know about this.

I think that this should be the first reply, in capital letters, to every one of the gormless threads that are currently being posted.

Being shut in a cell with a male person.

Well, at the end of Holy Month, I can honestly say I've seen very little Progress flag stuff, even in London. What I have seen is either low key (Waitrose's "Love Wins" bag) or using the original Pride flag instead.

I want to see Pride continue, but not as a vehicle for public display of fetishes or the force-teaming of TQWTF with the LGB.

There’s a very lacklustre Pride effort in my local area. The fb page garners a few likes (probably the organisers) and there were a few businesses with rainbow windows but the vast majority didn’t despite the somewhat coercive nature of the ‘invitation’ to participate.

The worst culprit is the supermarket with their ugly homophobia/‘Progress’ flags. Hopefully they’ll be gone soon.

That is just provocative.

You and I, and everyone here knows, very intimately, to the point where it exists only as a subliminal awareness - that males have a physical advantage over females, and if things turned sour or nasty it would be the female that would suffer.

We've all been subject to men leering at us, shouting out comments, projecting their hatred, or their fantasies, onto us; we've all been called a bitch or a slag by a man, had our body parts commented upon in public...many of us have suffered through male violence ( a cyclist last week smashed both of the wing mirrors off my car whilst threatening to punch me), including intimate sexual violence

We all know the potential. It exists as an unconscious defence mechanism.

Technically no women are in prison for TV licenses.

There are women in prison for failing to pay fines for failing to pay their TV licenses.

There are also women in prison for trying to protect their children from violent and abusive fathers (yes, the Family Courts really do do this).

Frankly, regardless of the offence, no woman should be raped in prison and putting male prisoners in women’s gaols is state sanctioned rape.

The post of mine that was deleted so quickly yesterday was just pointing out that transwomen's behaviours are men's behaviours, and some transwomen can abuse women in the same way some men do. The quick deletion and the 'you must hate transpeople' comment, encouraging people to assume I had posted something particularly horrible - very manipulative.

I’m surprised that Mumsnet HQ can’t see what’s happening here yet.

I know it's frowned on, but looking at some of the derailers other posts, it would appear he/she doesn't like women very much.

Your language, the tone of your posts. Maybe think about thst.

I know right. It's disgusting. I'm not sure this poster is worth engaging with, given views like that.

The more these flags are waved, the better.

Yep, sorry I got drawn in with that horrible poster. As soon as they suggested a woman's right to safety is crime-dependent then I knew I was communicating with some sociopathic bot. But at least I tried, because others may be reading and it will help people see exactly what we're up against.

Firstly it would depend what she was in prison for.

So in some situations you believe RAPE of a woman is justified.

I think I'm done trying to reason with you. Anyone who thinks womens safety and rights not to be raped depend on what crime she had done is lower than low and has no human blood running through them.