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Tom Clownfish elected as British Medical Association chair

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QAOPspaceman · 27/06/2025 23:53

https://www.bma.org.uk/bma-media-centre/dr-tom-dolphin-elected-as-new-bma-council-chair

Yes, the genius behind the rogue critique of the Cass review is now the boss. Good luck Agent Clownfish in your mission to destroy the rest of the BMA’s credibility!

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Dr Tom Dolphin elected as new BMA council chair - BMA media centre - BMA

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https://www.bma.org.uk/bma-media-centre/dr-tom-dolphin-elected-as-new-bma-council-chair

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BeeSouriante · 29/06/2025 07:02

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/06/2025 06:31

I didn't say they were minors, I said young people. Adults can be young. I find cosmetic surgery a very problematic area. Lots of money making opportunities from making people unhappy with their looks and promising them the earth.

Strange how you only care when it comes to people who are trans tho. Probs just a coincidence.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 29/06/2025 06:31

BeeSouriante · 29/06/2025 00:22

If you were in the slightest bit informed, you would know that the UK doesn't do trans surgeries with anyone who isn't an adult. Sadly you're not at all concerned about cisgender girls having elective surgery.

I didn't say they were minors, I said young people. Adults can be young. I find cosmetic surgery a very problematic area. Lots of money making opportunities from making people unhappy with their looks and promising them the earth.

PermanentTemporary · 29/06/2025 00:33

I don’t like cosmetic surgery for any girls and young women. I think I actually did talk a colleague out of a breast enlargement once, though maybe she just wasn’t that into the idea - I wasn’t really trying to persuade, I was just horrified. Equally horrified when a young female cousin had a bilateral mastectomy in order to present as more masculine. It all looks like self harm to me.

BeeSouriante · 29/06/2025 00:22

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/06/2025 15:05

I would like to think that people like you who have egged vulnerable confused young people on to have unnecessary and irreversible surgery and to take hormones in quantities their bodies have not evolved to cope with, leaving them as infertile, lifelong medical patients with poor sexual response, reduced quality of life and shortened life expectancy might one day look back and feel shame, but I'm not holding my breath.

If you were in the slightest bit informed, you would know that the UK doesn't do trans surgeries with anyone who isn't an adult. Sadly you're not at all concerned about cisgender girls having elective surgery.

QAOPspaceman · 28/06/2025 23:23

Helleofabore · 28/06/2025 07:22

QAOPspaceman

It is concerning to have someone who seems ideologically driven by issues such as this now in such a position of influence.

Thought you were talking about me for a second there and could only agree tbh 😂
(Even I’d be better than Clownfish though)

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nocoolnamesleft · 28/06/2025 22:26

Theeyeballsinthesky · 28/06/2025 07:52

i wonder how many BMA members voted? On the other thread about the BMA several posters who were members said they had stopped engaging with the BMA because of the batshittery

As a BMA member, I certainly wasn't offered an opportunity to vote. Many others have said the same.

princessleah1 · 28/06/2025 18:35

There was an excellent interview on Times Radio on Friday with a doctor complaining the BMA had been taken over by student type activists and are an embarrassment to the profession

hawheresthebmareviewnow · 28/06/2025 18:05

I left the BMA. I joined the HCSA not an option for everyone I know but at least it’s a trade union. You just can’t argue with stupid. 😞

Plasticwaste · 28/06/2025 17:30

Can I just say, OP, I adore the nickname Tom Clownfish? 😁

Multilayered!

MarieDeGournay · 28/06/2025 16:34

The BMA is just one more 'captured' trade union amongst so many others, but a lot of people think that the 'British Medical Association' is some kind of serious national governing body which can speak with authority on medical issues.

So when TRAs say 'Look, even the British Medical Association disagrees with Cass', it carries more weight than it should.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 28/06/2025 15:05

BeeSouriante · 28/06/2025 00:45

No one is not taking it seriously.

Sadly, now we have the situation like the bad old days where trans kids are trying anything else. Hell, even before all this when PBs were just being heavily gatekept, I had a conversation with a young trans woman who told me how she managed to DIY for years during her mid-teens.

Puberty blockers were the compromise, sadly Streeting and his ilk are more interested in engaging in cruelty to bolster his diet Reform image than what's best for young people.

I would like to think that people like you who have egged vulnerable confused young people on to have unnecessary and irreversible surgery and to take hormones in quantities their bodies have not evolved to cope with, leaving them as infertile, lifelong medical patients with poor sexual response, reduced quality of life and shortened life expectancy might one day look back and feel shame, but I'm not holding my breath.

MassiveWordSalad · 28/06/2025 13:44

Dr Ruth Pearce (not a medical doctor) along with other non-medical academics (including Sally Hines) co-authored an article advocating that trans-identifying females should be able to take take testosterone while pregnant despite the proven and potential risks to the unborn child.

This is not a person whose opinions on the Cass Report should be taken seriously 🙄

More details on Dr Pearce, as collated by Glinner.
https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/what-fresh-hell-is-this

What Fresh Hell Is This?

A new paper on testosterone use among expectant mothers puts narcissistic self-image over safety

https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/what-fresh-hell-is-this

terryleather · 28/06/2025 11:30

Datun · 28/06/2025 08:08

Amazing the number of grown men who would like to have children sterilised, keep them with pre-pubescent genitals and mentally immature, but chronologically above the legal age of consent.

And don’t forget the ones who advocate for castration, such as those lovely men at WPATH…

theDudesmummy · 28/06/2025 11:21

I also left the BMA last year, very glad I did.

ChazsBrilliantAttitude · 28/06/2025 11:14

I think there are doctors stuck in the same trap that Helen Joyce raises about the parents of trans children. If they don’t keep claiming what they have done and said is right they will have to face up to the lifelong harm they have done to vulnerable children.
They have to be right because being wrong will shatter their self image as a moral being in a sea of bigots. They have, perhaps subconsciously, tied their identity to this issue and now they have to maintain their position or question themselves.

ToClimb · 28/06/2025 11:02

Plasticwaste · 28/06/2025 00:44

Bee, why haven't you responded to the several other threads you've started?

Bee likes to come into threads, drop bullshit "evidence" to tell us why we are wrong, then clearly flies off to visit rainbows.

HappyNewTaxYear · 28/06/2025 11:00

@BeeSouriante how did you acquire your sex? You’ve forgotten to tell us on the other thread.

mrshoho · 28/06/2025 10:56

LeftieRightsHoarder · 28/06/2025 10:31

The BMA used to be a highly respected organisation, which I’d expect. I am stunned by its behaviour over the past few years, showing absolute lack of concern for children or for medical ethics, in deference to a destructive ideology.

I feel very much less automatic respect for doctors now.

Me too unfortunately. If they can lose all sense of reality when it comes to sex and gender and in particular the treatment for children then what else have they also been blindly going along with?

TheAutumnCrow · 28/06/2025 10:34

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 28/06/2025 07:58

Who the fuck is Dr Ruth Pearce?

Ah dear, dear Ruthie.

Not a scooby.

LeftieRightsHoarder · 28/06/2025 10:31

The BMA used to be a highly respected organisation, which I’d expect. I am stunned by its behaviour over the past few years, showing absolute lack of concern for children or for medical ethics, in deference to a destructive ideology.

I feel very much less automatic respect for doctors now.

MarieDeGournay · 28/06/2025 10:28

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 28/06/2025 08:46

So someone with zero medical knowledge and zero knowledge of being a woman, in other words.

Wow, who do I trust, Not-a-Doctor Ruth Pearce, or Dr Hilary Cass? Gosh, that's a tough one.

Yeah, I mean
Ruth Pearce, healthcare activist, punk musician, and feminist researcher, specialising in transgender studies and community development, transgender studies and community development
or
Hilary Cass,* *Fellow of the Royal College of Physicians, Fellow of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, who is or has been chair of the British Academy of Childhood Disability, established the Rett Clinic for children, president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, consultant at Great Ormond Street Hospital for 15 years and honorary physician in paediatric disability at the Guy's and St Thomas' NHS Foundation Trust...

it's a tricky one all right, Miss Scarlet. Rock scissors paper to decide who to trust?
Grin

LeftieRightsHoarder · 28/06/2025 10:18

TheAutumnCrow · 28/06/2025 00:20

Only a fool wouldn’t take the Cass Report seriously.

Or a transactivist. Remember that children’s safety and health are unimportant. Men must have whatever they want, at whatever cost.

Shedmistress · 28/06/2025 10:15

Surely the absolute best way to debunk the Cass review is to release the adult data showing all the wonderful success stories? Anyone got a link to that data?

IButtleSir · 28/06/2025 08:56

HonestOpalHelper · 28/06/2025 08:31

Surely Clownmammal? Dolphins are not fish....

You've missed the joke- TRAs love to tell anyone who stands still long enough that sex isn't a binary, because clownfish can change sex. Then they stick their fingers in their ears and go, "LALALA!" before anyone can point out that humans, unlike clownfish, are not sequential hermaphrodites.

QAOPspaceman · 28/06/2025 08:53

BeeSouriante · 28/06/2025 00:17

Does your namecalling indicate that you're against criticism of the Cass report, despite all the international pushback..or are you not aware of that pushback?

I hope you’ve not been deadnaming Dr Clownfish. Yes I’m aware of the pushback/whingeing from what look like other ideologically captured organisations. I don’t find it nearly as persuasive as Cass or people who saw the Tavistock up close like Az Hakeem or Marcus Evans

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