"Should primary school kids be taught about polyamory, the fetish spectrum & how to get breast binders?" Neil O'Brien MP

So polygamy then? The man getting his own way and convincing the women they like it that way!

Good idea. I'd given up hope of this government tackling this and am now fretting about what extent the extreme transactivists in the civil service and labour may have had?
But if Phillipson's been speaking with Streeting then maybe there's hope?

I can start a new thread, if you think it is appropriate?

Hopefully it'll arrive before the school summer break starts, and will be joined up with the SC's judgment.

I feel unbelievably naive saying that.

Thank you. This will be interesting. The draft guidance from the last government wasn't perfect but in the light of Cass, the SC judgment and the continual revelations about the harm being done to children from social transitioning I hope that the basic principles of safeguarding, anti bullying, parental involvement will be confirmed.

Whilst this isn't perhaps the perfect thread for this, the delayed KCSIE (keeping children safe in education) statutory guidance has been confirmed to be released this month, almost 2 months later than normal.

'The Department for Education this morning revealed the document – which gets updated each year – will include links to latest relationships, sex and health education guidance and “revised guidance on gender-questioning children”.

KCSIE sets out the legal duties schools “must follow to safeguard and promote the welfare of children and young people under the age of 18”."

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/dfe-promises-delayed-kcsie-guidance-this-month/

It not being ok is your opinion. I think it is ok. Its not for me, but that doesn't mean it isn't ok.
And I don't think children need to learn about it. But if it comes up somehow then teachers need to be able to say something.

It isn’t okay though, just because it’s not illegal. We’re quite entitled to make collective decisions about what social arrangements we do and do not want.

One of those arrangements is ‘let people basically arrange their own lives as they see fit’. Another is ‘we should aspire to faithful monogamy’. Just because we have the first, it doesn’t mean the second one has gone away.

It’s weird, in 2025, to find people still acting as that basic tolerance, or ideas like ‘as long as everyone consents’, somehow means that so long as you can do something then it should be celebrated. I think we’ve moved on from that.

But do primary children need to know about it?

Of course it's my opinion. My DC were at school with people who didnt think same sex relationships were OK. Schools still teach about them. Because they aren't illegal even if some people disagree with them.

A bloke going with two women is hardly smashing the patriarchy.

Many people do not think it is ok. That is very much your opinion.

And it's not the role of schools to go around telling kids that it's ok, or for that matter, that it isn't. And contradicting what their parents are telling them. It's over-stepping.

Yes. Sorry. I'm sick and my brain isnt working. The 2 women definitely have the "power" so to speak though. They own the house they live in, he pays rent. They are married to each other. He is an "extra" as it were.
It wouldn't work for me, but they've lived this way for 20 years now and are happy.

But it is ok. If everyone is happy and consenting.
I don't necessarily think they should have to teach about them. But if it comes up then they need to be able to say that it's valid. That's all I was saying.

So traditional polygyny.

I don't want my kids taught that polyamourous relationships are healthy or that they should be normalised. Which is how the school would have to treat it, because being "neutral" is effectively the same as saying it's ok to kids.

And you think that isn't every man's wet dream?

No, let them enjoy being kids before all of the identifications have to be addressed! Having your primary school child coming home and talking about things they don't understand is sad.

Is that sort of teaching common?

Youngest DC goes to a Catholic school where the 2nd largest group is Muslim. They don't teach that stuff there so it isnt compulsory to teach it.

Well the one I know is 2 women and a man. So not sure the patriarchy did a good job there.

Can anyone show an example of a polyamorus (spelling) relationship that isn't misogynistic?

We don't need to teach them the intricacies of adult sex lives. Why would we? It's not the same as explaining the battle of Hastings. And I know not where you live but polyamory isn't a thing where I live.

Honestly I think they need to stop teaching all of this stuff.

It's clear they can't be trusted to have good judgement, it's fundamentally not the role of the school, and they don't currently seem to have enough time to teach them to read, do maths, to learn history or be exposed to the basics of our literary culture.

When they can teach those things to a high level maybe come back to the other stuff and see,

Polyamory being promoted and normalised by the stupid liberal middle-classes just in time for society to descend to the great oncoming patriarchal religiousnuttery tradition of men owning many wives 🙃

They exist, but basing my opinion on people I know who are in or who have dabbled in polyamorous relationships they usually include a coerced woman. Ditto open relationships.

I’m not saying that healthy poly relationships don’t exist, but young children don’t need to learn about them. Save some things for when they’re older and more able to understand potential complications with relationships. At 8 they should know that most children have a mum and dad, or a mum, or a dad, or 2 mums or 2 dads. Adding more people is a lot for most adults to comprehend, let alone a small child!