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Trans detainees can request officers of a different sex for searches (Scotland)

38 replies

Igneococcus · 25/06/2025 20:21

This might be the most bonkers thing to come out of Scotland yet.
"Transgender detainees undergoing police searches will be allowed to ask for officers of different sexes to frisk their top and bottom halves, under new guidelines."

https://www.thetimes.com/article/ac912fac-0038-4d68-80a9-b3dce4807ca6?shareToken=8d1563cd136a6688bad250e571282b97

Trans detainees can request officers of a different sex for searches

Police Scotland said the advice is for those who have not fully transitioned — officers of different sexes will search different areas of the detainee’s body

https://www.thetimes.com/article/ac912fac-0038-4d68-80a9-b3dce4807ca6?shareToken=8d1563cd136a6688bad250e571282b97

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TwoLoonsAndASprout · 26/06/2025 07:41

ArabellaScott · 26/06/2025 07:39

But - but it's utterly absurd!!

It’s for the comfort of the transitioning person, apparently.

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 26/06/2025 07:40

ArabellaScott · 26/06/2025 07:36

I'm struggling to make any kind of sense out of this. Is the suggestion people can be a different sex from the waist down?!

Yes. Because they may be “mid transition” so they’ve only had half of their surgeries. The policies seem to not have caught up with the fact that for many TiMs the boobs-plus-intact-penis is in fact the end goal.

ArabellaScott · 26/06/2025 07:39

But - but it's utterly absurd!!

TwoLoonsAndASprout · 26/06/2025 07:38

ArabellaScott · 26/06/2025 07:34

And excerpt.

We’ve come across this in the NHS audit too, wrt intimate searches in mental health wards. Although in the one I’m remembering it specifically stated that staff would not be able to object to doing these searches, on any grounds.

ArabellaScott · 26/06/2025 07:36

I'm struggling to make any kind of sense out of this. Is the suggestion people can be a different sex from the waist down?!

ArabellaScott · 26/06/2025 07:34

And excerpt.

Trans detainees can request officers of a different sex for searches (Scotland)
Keenovay · 26/06/2025 02:46

I'm picturing that flipbook game I played as a kid where head, torso and legs are all wearing different outfits...👫

Boiledbeetle · 25/06/2025 22:15

Officers who refuse to carry out such searches will face no career detriment, the guidance adds.

I hope every female officer if asked to check a transwomans top half (or bottom half if they've inverted the penis) tells their superior to stick their request where the sun doesn't shine.

DragonRunor · 25/06/2025 22:13

I wonder (if they’ve considered) how this would go in court….

Igneococcus · 25/06/2025 20:51

I agree it's mad and I feel for the female police officers.
Also, I thought it was us who are "obsessed with genitals" allegedly.

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CinnamonCinnabar · 25/06/2025 20:41

This is utterly crazy. There is no such thing as 'full surgical transition' for a start - and I don't believe for a minute that female officers won't be put under pressure to carry out intimate searches of trans identifying males. What happens if no complying female officer is on shift in that police station? Do they abandon the search or (much more likely) coerce a female colleague? Why is the top half of a trans person a different sex to their bottom half? The police unions should be speaking out against this, it's abusive to officers and could put them at risk of legal action.

Bannedontherun · 25/06/2025 20:32

Well at a guess female lice will be queuing up to do this lol.