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Why is anti-trans so important?

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Elizabethbd · 24/06/2025 11:48

So, I will preface this with saying that I’m not in the UK, and my country does not yet have the kind of anti-trans debate as there is in the English speaking world.

So, I have a hard time understanding why this is such an important question to many women.

Surely there are women’s issues that affect a larger part of society.

I’m thinking rape and violence towards women, homelesness, sex trafficking and honour killings. Why are these issues not more important and worthy of attention, as they affect so many more women than those who come into contact with trans women (or men)?

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lifeturnsonadime · 24/06/2025 11:57

Another bored student?

ApocalipstickNow · 24/06/2025 11:57

What does “anti-trans” mean to you Elizabethbd?

AlexandraLeaving · 24/06/2025 11:56

This. [ETA: was meant to quote @frenchnoodle - and then got confused as frenchnoodle had done two really good and important posts and didn't know which to quote so screwed up.]

Challenging sex discrimination (in all fields) depends on being able to define sex categories objectively.

And if the categories become defined by gender stereotypes, then we're back to the 1950s.

Women are concerned about losing their sex-based rights. It's not about being anti-trans.

Redshoeblueshoe · 24/06/2025 11:56

Google Isla Bryson.

Rightsraptor · 24/06/2025 11:53

Women's rights are so important. It's obvious why. We fight to preserve what we have fought so hard for.

There's nothing 'anti-trans' about it.

I won't engage further.

frenchnoodle · 24/06/2025 11:53

I’m thinking rape and violence towards women, homelesness, sex trafficking and honour killings.

Would this stop if they identified as men?

No because it's affects women as a sex class not as a feeling of feminity.

pontefractals · 24/06/2025 11:51

I'm not anti-trans, and neither are a lot of the women here. We just don't believe that transwomen are women, which means they shouldn't be in our physical or metaphorical spaces. Transmen would in most cases, for most of us, be absolutely fine.
We can't fight for ANYTHING for women unless "woman" is an actual thing, not just an idea in a man's head.

frenchnoodle · 24/06/2025 11:51

Women need to be able to be defined as a sex class, in biology and in law.
without that basic foundation none of the other stuff you mention can be tackled.

SwordOfOmens · 24/06/2025 11:49

Is this a joke?