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borntobequiet · 22/06/2025 16:39

What is really weird is writing s*x rather than sex in the article.

thirdfiddle · 22/06/2025 16:36

nutmeg7 · 22/06/2025 16:21

I thought it was in the “open” category.

There was “open” and “female”, so I read on the other thread about this.

Probably was - I guess normally body suits are still banned for men or they'd all wear them wouldn't they?

Sporadica · 22/06/2025 16:32

Rachel Johnson (sister of Boris) went topless to protest Brexit, but UK passport-holders still can't get more than 90/180 days in the Schengen area without a visa. I doubt that this particular group of boobs will have significantly better luck.

AngelinaFibres · 22/06/2025 16:23

BuckaDuck · 22/06/2025 16:04

Given the heat in the UK all I saw yesterday was topless men some with moobs some without.
I dont really have any thoughts on topless blokes to be honest.

This. For me topless blokes are just grim. Whether they have moobs they've grown themselves or silicon filled moobs they are horribly unattractive. Just out them away. They aren't shocking they're just sad

nutmeg7 · 22/06/2025 16:21

thirdfiddle · 22/06/2025 16:11

Ah, they had actually made the exception. Entirely the swimmer's choice then.

I thought it was in the “open” category.

There was “open” and “female”, so I read on the other thread about this.

TheFutureIs · 22/06/2025 16:21

That pic with the boobs blanked out, definitely a blokes physique

WallaceinAnderland · 22/06/2025 16:19

All he's done is prove that everyone thinks he he's a man.

Men go topless all the time. He was in a man's race, topless like all the other men. No one objected.

If it had really been a topless woman in a man's race then there would have been uproar.

MissAnthr0pe · 22/06/2025 16:18

Man boobs are on display on beaches around the world, so nothing to see here.

Columbidae · 22/06/2025 16:16

Soubriquet · 22/06/2025 16:01

Cos I’m genuinely interested to see what other people think.

There's some previous discussion here OP, to see what some others have said:

www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5357213-transwoman-swimmer-anne-coombs-in-the-news-again

Shetlands · 22/06/2025 16:13

He doesn't mind exposing his false lady-titties but I bet he wouldn't want to show off his very male todger to the cameras!

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 22/06/2025 16:13

If it is safe to have male individuals around when female individuals are getting changed/otherwise vulnerable, then by the same token this person will be completely safe swimming topless with the men.

And no-one bats an eyelid at men with big moobs going topless, so why would it matter if a man with artificially created moobs does?

DiscoBob · 22/06/2025 16:12

Why is a man being topless a protest? Unless you are doing it to antagonise people? But I see that dozens of times a day in Tesco or in the streets.

I don't care if a man goes topless. Whether he has breast tissue naturally, fat moobs, or chose to put silicone on there makes no odds.

Other than if he was trying to 'pass' as female his lack of clothing would only make him look less convincing.

ANameChangePresents · 22/06/2025 16:12

thirdfiddle · 22/06/2025 16:08

Being permitted to wear a women's cossie in the men's competition seems to me like exactly the sort of reasonable accommodation that could be made if this person actually had dysphoria and wanted to be seen as more womanly.

Unsightly as moobs may be, there are plenty on show at the swimming pool every weekend, just unusual to see in a competitive scenario and definitely won't help his hydrodynamics. (Nearly said aerodynamics, but I assume they won't be flying much!)

Just give the fella fellas the right to wear bodysuits if we want to flatten playing fields. Have the guys make the concession for a change.

Although to be honest, as you said, even that's probably unnecessary, as hormone/hydrodynamic modifications will confer more disadvantages than the advantages the suit will grant.

I suppose you might need to cover the edge case of transwomen swimmers who do LITERALLY nothing near sticking on a bit of lippy. We can't gatekeep trans after all.

thirdfiddle · 22/06/2025 16:11

tripleginandtonic · 22/06/2025 16:09

Male, told they could wear a swimsuit but chose not to. Can't see a problem.

Ah, they had actually made the exception. Entirely the swimmer's choice then.

lnks · 22/06/2025 16:10

Thus further demonstrating that he is a man, as he wasn’t challenged as a woman would be for swimming topless

BuckaDuck · 22/06/2025 16:10

I cannot imagine anyone batted an eyelid at seeing this male in swim shorts.
Look at this unit! Why was he ever allowed to compete against women?

Trans swimmer goes topless to protest having to swim with men
tripleginandtonic · 22/06/2025 16:09

Soubriquet · 22/06/2025 16:01

Cos I’m genuinely interested to see what other people think.

Male, told they could wear a swimsuit but chose not to. Can't see a problem.

thirdfiddle · 22/06/2025 16:08

Being permitted to wear a women's cossie in the men's competition seems to me like exactly the sort of reasonable accommodation that could be made if this person actually had dysphoria and wanted to be seen as more womanly.

Unsightly as moobs may be, there are plenty on show at the swimming pool every weekend, just unusual to see in a competitive scenario and definitely won't help his hydrodynamics. (Nearly said aerodynamics, but I assume they won't be flying much!)

ANameChangePresents · 22/06/2025 16:08

Aside:

The sooner we see this cyberpunk dystopia of body modification deification for what it is, the better. Honestly. It's a biological male (i.e. man) who has some sort of mental ideation inspiring him to have silicone breasts implanted. I'll give it same kudos as liposuction for anorexics.

spannasaurus · 22/06/2025 16:08

Why do all the newspaper reports about this man use stock photos of actual women.

This report did state "not the actual photo" but why bother with the misleading stock photos

Trans swimmer goes topless to protest having to swim with men
Soubriquet · 22/06/2025 16:06

PriOn1 · 22/06/2025 16:04

Prick News ran the same story with a “stock photo” of the suntanned back of a young, slim topless woman beside a swimming pool. The contrasting photos were all over Twix a day or two back.

I wonder if he wore the wig to swim. If not, it’s quite likely nobody would have noticed unless he deliberately drew attention to himself.

Edited

Yeah I tried to make sure I found a link OTHER than them.

OP posts:
Reallybadidea · 22/06/2025 16:06

So just like all the other men he was swimming with then?

Mt563 · 22/06/2025 16:05

Well male nipples and moobs aren't offensive it seems online so nothing to note here

PriOn1 · 22/06/2025 16:04

Prick News ran the same story with a “stock photo” of the suntanned back of a young, slim topless woman beside a swimming pool. The contrasting photos were all over Twix a day or two back.

I wonder if he wore the wig to swim. If not, it’s quite likely nobody would have noticed unless he deliberately drew attention to himself.

BuckaDuck · 22/06/2025 16:04

Given the heat in the UK all I saw yesterday was topless men some with moobs some without.
I dont really have any thoughts on topless blokes to be honest.