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BBC presenter corrects pregnant people to pregnant women

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/06/2025 08:41

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1936513585082970489?s=46

and with a splendid eye roll to boot 😁

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1936513585082970489?s=46

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Birdsinginginthetrees · 22/06/2025 11:24

Good

LBFseBrom · 22/06/2025 11:23

Absolutely right, only women can be pregnant in the biological sense of expecting a baby. Everyone knows that and it's ridiculous to say otherwise. It's all going too far!

Butchyrestingface · 22/06/2025 11:16

Maxine Croxall: Rebel Without a Pause. Grin

WhatterySquash · 22/06/2025 11:14

HH was massively provoking Martine in a personal way, with the repeated comparing of HH’s feelings about not being considered a woman with how MC would feel if told that. She didn’t take the bait and say Yes but I am an actual woman” which must have taken a will of steel.

I remember a similar thing when Paris Lees was being interviewed by Nick Robinson and kept demanding “well do you think I’m a woman?” - for want of being able to engage with actual arguments and sophisticated questioning. NR just said “it’s not about what I think” (as opposed to ‘yes of course Paris” a la Emma Watson) and Paris was stumped. Forcing people to toe the line via shaming and fear is all they have. They have insisted on no debate and now they can’t debate.

Strawberryfields18 · 22/06/2025 11:14

Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/06/2025 10:50

I attend a lot of meetings with the NHS - a worrying number of ppl use it with a completely straight face

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I've heard Nurses say they absolutely refuse to ask big butch hairy tattooed men if they could be pregnant for fear of being assaulted. I'm not surprised.

SoMauveMonty · 22/06/2025 11:11

Topseyt123 · 22/06/2025 10:31

Good for her! 😃 The phrase "pregnant people" drives me mad. As does "we are pregnant" when uttered by a man about his pregnant female partner.

WOMEN get pregnant. Men do not. Only one person in a couple will be pregnant. It won't be a man!

Me too. It's become apparent over the past few years there is nothing women do or have for ourselves that men won't try and commandeer, and it gets right up my nose.

TheCatsTongue · 22/06/2025 11:07

MelodyMalone · 22/06/2025 10:53

"Non-men"! 😭😭

We're not women any more, we're just - not men?

What's the rationale for that one?

Non-men also includes boys as they are not yet men.

Noshadelamp · 22/06/2025 11:06

Or 'non men' (Green Party, numerous occasions) @Waitwhat23

Sorry what? That's actually terrifying.

I am not anti trans but I am pro women and appalled at the erosion of women in language.

Love Martine for thiis.

theilltemperedmaggotintheheartofthelaw · 22/06/2025 11:06

AlexandraLeaving · 22/06/2025 10:48

This a good question to ask. Personally, I think it is a number of factors. First as you say it is about numbers. Secondly, I think tone of voice makes a big difference. The interview with HH would have been difficult for HH but the tone of voice was calm throughout. I don’t think WEC was the same.

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Another difference was that MC asked HH sensible questions that might in principle have had sensible answers (I often think I could do better than TRAs do in these situations, and I'm not even a believer).

Whereas the WEC was all 'when did you stop beating your wife?' (and inadequately briefed).

Steelworks · 22/06/2025 11:05

Well done! There was a slight smile on her lips as well.

MetricMs · 22/06/2025 11:00

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 22/06/2025 08:47

Did she, though?

I couldn't tell if she did actually correct 'pregnant people' to pregnant women or if she was just reading out a list: the aged, 'pregnant people', women and those with medical conditions.

She may of course have been making the point in a deliberately deniable way, in case her bosses tried to pull her up on it.

Then again, the way she said "women" might have suggested that she was amending the script for common sense purposes.

Who knows?

That eye roll was very clear imo.
Well done Martine!

PinkiOcelot · 22/06/2025 11:00

Good. There’s no such thing as pregnant people.

WhatterySquash · 22/06/2025 11:00

SabrinaThwaite · 22/06/2025 10:48

Nah. Herbert would need some self awareness to be able to do that.

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I thought Heather seemed quite hesitant and befuddled by the end, at the moment of saying nah it’s not a big deal. There was a look of “this isn’t what I came here to say…”

But will have been instantly reassured it was fabulous and Martine is a meanie old TERF.

Bunniesnotbullies · 22/06/2025 11:00

MelodyMalone · 22/06/2025 10:53

"Non-men"! 😭😭

We're not women any more, we're just - not men?

What's the rationale for that one?

Misogyny.

heartsinvisiblefury · 22/06/2025 10:57

👏🏻

everychildmatters · 22/06/2025 10:56

Fair play to her. Stop. Erasing. Women.

Pleasantsort · 22/06/2025 10:54

Martine is great. Oh Heather ! Had a "discussion " with Heather a few years ago when I was on Facebook with a female Unison official ( TWAW) regarding Self ID and let's just say, I just decided there and then that Unison was a lost cause. Completely attempted to mansplain me and tell me I had nothing to worry about and all my concerns were all in my paranoid little head. Awful.

MelodyMalone · 22/06/2025 10:53

"Non-men"! 😭😭

We're not women any more, we're just - not men?

What's the rationale for that one?

Boiledbeetle · 22/06/2025 10:51

DiamondThrone · 22/06/2025 09:13

Yes, she gave it the eyeroll it deserved. Good for her!

She'll probably be in trouble with the thought police in the BBC though 🙄

I have visions of her being dragged off for 're-education' straight after she came off air!

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 22/06/2025 10:50

ItsCoolForCats · 22/06/2025 09:48

I hope she isn't sanctioned though.

After the Supreme Court ruling, how could the Beeb possibly justify that?

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/06/2025 10:50

Strawberryfields18 · 22/06/2025 10:27

"PREGNANT PEOPLE"
😂😂😂

I had never heard this expression but I've heard it all now 😂

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I attend a lot of meetings with the NHS - a worrying number of ppl use it with a completely straight face

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Waitwhat23 · 22/06/2025 10:49

Tapoopoo · 22/06/2025 10:44

Yes. I am a woman. Not a "person with a uterus".

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Or 'bodies with a vagina' (Lancet, September 2021)

Or 'those with a cervix' (Scottish Government cervical screening radio campaign, October 2021)

Or 'non men' (Green Party, numerous occasions)

There's so many more examples as well.

AlexandraLeaving · 22/06/2025 10:48

Brainworm · 22/06/2025 09:57

Throwing this out there to get poster’s thoughts….The interview with Heather was great, because Martine critiqued the arguments put forward and challenged where there was a lack of coherence between the different claims being made. I expect those on the TRA side of things regarded the interview as hostile.

I regarded the questioning of Baroness Faulkner by the WEC to be hostile. The context of multiple people versus one might have contributed to how inappropriate it seemed, but I’d think there was more to it than just this.

What thoughts do people have about the differences that makes Martinez’s approach with Heather different to the questions by the WEC?

This a good question to ask. Personally, I think it is a number of factors. First as you say it is about numbers. Secondly, I think tone of voice makes a big difference. The interview with HH would have been difficult for HH but the tone of voice was calm throughout. I don’t think WEC was the same.

SabrinaThwaite · 22/06/2025 10:48

WhatterySquash · 22/06/2025 10:45

The interview with Heather Herbert is sheer class. She stuck to the facts, did not get irate and calmly walked Herbert into a self-contradictory mess. I can imagine Herbert switching the laptop off and going “what the fuck did I just say?”

Nah. Herbert would need some self awareness to be able to do that.