BBC presenter corrects pregnant people to pregnant women

Niall Christie of the Scottish Greens recently announced that men should step down from positions in the party to allow for more gender equality. He named Ellie Gomersall and Iris Duane as ideal candidates.

Take a guess. I bet you'll be right....

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Love this!

Herbert’s interview was completely incomprehensible on his part. She was brilliant, again 👏

Thanks CoolforCats.

I agree with your take on the WEC debacle. My understanding is that the ‘other side’ claim that Sarah Owens was beyond reasonable in her patience because Baroness Faulkner was filibustering. They claim that when she arrived, she gave a hard deadline by which she had to leave, and then, gave very long answers that didn’t address the questions posed and used up all the time available on irrelevant detail. This is the justification provided for the interruptions and irritation. If the shoe was on the other foot and the EHRC guidance played fast and loose with the ruling whereby they were leaving loopholes for allowing transwomen in female provision - I would have sympathy for a chair getting frustrated and interrupting if this wasn’t being addressed.

The bit I don’t get is what answers they sought that they didn’t get? There were questions that she redirected to the government and the courts, because they related to issues outside of the EHRC’s remit. Beyond that, I am baffled.

I tend to think it’s a case of failing to differentiate between determining an answer to be unsatisfactory because (a) it wasn’t answered and (b) they disagree with the answer. I expect they were expecting their views to be affirmed and failure to do this reflected a ‘non answer’.

If this isn’t the case, I would love to know what questions they feel haven’t been answered and do these could be provided. Getting to a place of ‘both sides’ properly understanding each others position and recognising where and why there is disagreement would reflect great progress!

Non men???

What?!

I loved the Green party and then they went all out trans rights.

And I haven't touched them since.

Hip hip hooray for Martine!

I have just sent a compliment to the BBC to say how great she is generally and how excellent she was in her role on 21.6.2025.

Thanks. I've seen it all now (although the Green Party "explanations" are unavailable on the link, so not quite all, I guess).

On another note, Beatrix Campbell! I haven't heard of her for years and had forgotten she existed. I read a few of her books back in the day.

There was so much complete rubbish and pandering to TW and what about the poor menz around the time of the SC judgement so seeing that interview with Heather is such a breath of fresh air. And on the BBC no less! No doubt there will have to have been 10 extra articles about drag queens for balance.

If you recognise women as a sex class then, to them, you are inherently anti-trans.

Good point - we should write to the BBC with gushing compliments about her and requesting more of her

Good on her. I especially like the little smile she gave as she finished her report after she said women.

Legend

The written quote does, yes. But Martinez read out “the aged”, presumably from the autocue, which is a bit different.

Agree 👆 She was one of the female presenters who took the BBC to employment tribunal about unequal pay for female members of BBC staff.

Wonder if she’s here somewhere?

Story aside, bit miffed that you’ve just referred to the Magnificent Maxine as “a BBC presenter”! She’s fabulous.

Ahh excellent. As soon as I’d watched the clip I thought ah, I LOVE her!

And I do, but then I thought jfc, is this what it’s come to. Any woman or man who supports sex realism in any way, we are immediately woo hoo yes! I hate gender woo and what’s it done to people.

Thank the judges for the SC decision, thank the judges. For, as Douglas Murray said, telling us something our species has known since we first came down from the trees.

Just no need to say whether or not you support T people. It’s okay to support someone who calls out this pregnant people stupidity without prefacing it with your stance on T ideology.

I get what you're saying, and I do try to view things from 'the other side's perspective because I know I am biased towards the GC view. But I think there are important differences between the two scenarios.

Trans activists often make false claims that go unchallenged on mainstream media, e.g. about suicide risk or what the law actually is. HH did it in the interview by mentioning Trump and when Martine (calmly) asked him to explain what he meant he couldn't and tied himself in knots because Trump had nothing to do with the SC judgement. So what is it that TRAs would find hostile about the interview? The fact that she pushed back on the claims instead of unquestioningly accepting them whilst nodding sympathetically?

Whereas, at the WEC session, Sarah Owen was undoubtedly rude in her tone. She cut baroness Faulkner off when she was talking about her ill treatment at the hands of activists. And whilst Baroness Faulkner clearly knows her stuff, Sarah Owen hasn't even bothered to read the judgement, so not only was she rude, she was ill-informed as well. It was unprofessional conduct for a chair.

Do you eye roll too?

Sadly, according to the trans activists, if you are pro-women that makes you anti trans.

See the thread on the silent vigil for Afghan women being interrupted by a local councillor who identifies as trans screaming that the women were transphobic and ‘Nazis’.

See also the thread on the Lesbian Picnic event in London that has trans activists on the thread openly threatening to turn up and disrupt it and also are busy reporting them to the police and the London Authority to try and get them shut down.

The trans activists demand 100% capitulation to their demands, women and our rights have to be fully subjugated to the demands of men. Interestingly within the trans community, the interests of trans identifying females (transmen) are also secondary to men who identify as females. It’s all about the menz.

It's like women are supposed to be "clever enough" to know about their anatomy and men are so stupid that they couldn't possibly use 'trans inclusive' language in regards to the prostate in case the men get confused.

Either that, or trans identifying women stick to what is typical of their biology and don't make a fuss, so no one is bending over backwards for them.

Yet trans identifying males have a conniption at the idea they don't have a cervix and consider it hate speech. Lol

Edit: to make it clear. I think it is all a load of absolute nonsense.

Oh God "we are pregnant" is awful.
When I was pregnant, a nurse said something like "you and your husband are pregnant". I said "Im pregnant but I dont think my husband is". The nurse just looked at and my husband said he didnt understand why I was upset about it. I pointed out that it was me doing the work, it was my body, it was me who was having to not eat brie. He was actually insulted! I still dont think he "gets it".

I followed Martine on Twix after she kept the pressure up on a distressed TW after the SC judgment. She kept asking questions that he kept dodging and refused to let him off lightly. Great to see some fightback from within the BBC.

There's also the disparity between male and female health care. Prostate Cancer UK received a query as to why they don't use 'those with a prostate' and replied (entirely sensibly) that although they use such language on the various pages on their website, they use the word men on campaign materials in order to avoid confusion by using clear language.

Whereas, as per the Scottish Government's radio campaign I referred to up thread, the word woman wasn't used at all. Just 'those with a cervix'.

And when the NHS started updating the language on their Web pages to be 'more inclusive', it was the women's pages edited first.

It says 'people aged over 65' which is very different to people over 65 are aged.