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BBC presenter corrects pregnant people to pregnant women

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/06/2025 08:41

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1936513585082970489?s=46

and with a splendid eye roll to boot 😁

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1936513585082970489?s=46

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WarriorN · 24/06/2025 07:00

She’s attracted a lot of attention now; she probably feels very unable to post much on SM.

I hope she and Justin Webb are in a supportive WhatsApp…!

joe bangles as asked her favourite cheese.

port and Stilton?

lcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2025 02:18

I'm not breaking the champagne open yet but, this is encouraging

https://archive.ph/LHJkV

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/23/bbc-backs-martine-croxall-pregnant-people-women/

Although, if I were a glass half empty type person, I'd be a little depressed at the breadcrumbs tossed our way. I'm grateful to Martine but to be genuinely fearful that this could cost her job. To know that this will see her the target of unhinged rage and batshittery. That this is how it is now. A newsreader using the word 'women to correct a scientist, a scientist, who didn't and it makes the fucking papers!

sanityisamyth · 23/06/2025 23:30

Just seen it. Brilliant!!

WhatterySquash · 23/06/2025 21:28

DiamondThrone · 23/06/2025 20:08

This is what Sooz Kempner has said on Bluesky. Please make it make sense:

If you reject "pregnant person" when referring to women, AFAB and non-binary people who are pregnant what you're saying is you don't think women are people. You fucking weirdo.

https://bsky.app/profile/soozuk.bsky.social/post/3lsbabyuoek2n

That's got "I'm biological and a woman therefore I'm a biological woman" vibes. i.e. logic fail-arama.

JaneJeffer · 23/06/2025 20:49

Well done Martine

WarriorN · 23/06/2025 20:23

DefineHappy · 23/06/2025 17:07

Any chance of screenshots, please?

sorry I hadn’t seen this, thanks for the screenshots @SabrinaThwaite!

DiamondThrone · 23/06/2025 20:08

This is what Sooz Kempner has said on Bluesky. Please make it make sense:

If you reject "pregnant person" when referring to women, AFAB and non-binary people who are pregnant what you're saying is you don't think women are people. You fucking weirdo.

https://bsky.app/profile/soozuk.bsky.social/post/3lsbabyuoek2n

Sooz Kempner (@soozuk.bsky.social)

If you reject "pregnant person" when referring to women, AFAB and non-binary people who are pregnant what you're saying is you don't think women are people. You fucking weirdo.

https://bsky.app/profile/soozuk.bsky.social/post/3lsbabyuoek2n

SabrinaThwaite · 23/06/2025 18:35

Webberley on X and the top three replies for me:

BBC presenter corrects pregnant people to pregnant women
BBC presenter corrects pregnant people to pregnant women
SabrinaThwaite · 23/06/2025 18:31

DiamondThrone · 23/06/2025 16:38

It's a pun on the song "Stand By Your Man", I assume

Sounds like the kind of thing Jordan Gray would bang out on the piano.

IButtleSir · 23/06/2025 18:24

fromorbit · 23/06/2025 18:01

Another mass peaking moment, but lets step back and consider how insane the situation is.

Jill Foster

Let’s be clear, I think MartineBBC
is an absolute star and her eye roll spoke for all of us.
But it’s 2025 and every newspaper from the Times to the Mail and Evening Standard are carrying a story on the fact she said women can get pregnant.

What a time to be alive.

A few years ago she would have lost her job, other people have done.

She said (well, implied) that ONLY women can get pregnant. Truly groundbreaking stuff 😂

Chersfrozenface · 23/06/2025 18:08

PhantomOTheParadise · 23/06/2025 11:16

But they're still women. Everyone knows only women can get pregnant; to pretend otherwise is both stupid and pointless.

I always wonder why transmen want to get pregnant, and how calling them women can bring on dysphoria and should not be done, but carrying an actual baby and giving birth will not, and is seemingly fine.

Usually this is covered by "sex is complicated / a spectrum" and "men can get pregnant".

See the pregnant man emoji🫃

fromorbit · 23/06/2025 18:01

Another mass peaking moment, but lets step back and consider how insane the situation is.

Jill Foster

Let’s be clear, I think MartineBBC
is an absolute star and her eye roll spoke for all of us.
But it’s 2025 and every newspaper from the Times to the Mail and Evening Standard are carrying a story on the fact she said women can get pregnant.

What a time to be alive.

A few years ago she would have lost her job, other people have done.

ItsCoolForCats · 23/06/2025 17:42

MelodyMalone · 23/06/2025 17:20

Good to see BBC are backing her. The Times article was interesting and does seem to mark a shift.

It feels like we are having lots of watershed moments. 2025 is turning out to be quite the year.

MelodyMalone · 23/06/2025 17:20

Good to see BBC are backing her. The Times article was interesting and does seem to mark a shift.

DefineHappy · 23/06/2025 17:07

WarriorN · 23/06/2025 16:27

Webberly has wobbled and attempted a rebuke. Ratios are glorious

Any chance of screenshots, please?

DefineHappy · 23/06/2025 17:06

ArabellaScott · 23/06/2025 16:31

Peter Lloyd has written a book, Stand By Your Manhood.

I thought a 'manhood' was a penis? How can you stand 'by' it? Unless its been removed, I suppose.

There was that weird song a long time ago called something like “detachable penis”… I think that is what it must be referring to 😎🤣

DiamondThrone · 23/06/2025 16:38

ArabellaScott · 23/06/2025 16:31

Peter Lloyd has written a book, Stand By Your Manhood.

I thought a 'manhood' was a penis? How can you stand 'by' it? Unless its been removed, I suppose.

It's a pun on the song "Stand By Your Man", I assume

ArabellaScott · 23/06/2025 16:31

Peter Lloyd has written a book, Stand By Your Manhood.

I thought a 'manhood' was a penis? How can you stand 'by' it? Unless its been removed, I suppose.

WarriorN · 23/06/2025 16:27

Webberly has wobbled and attempted a rebuke. Ratios are glorious

IFoundYouShoppingInEuropaOnWardourStreet · 23/06/2025 16:26

Interestingly this story has now started popping up on my SM. I hope this doesn't bring the TRAs out of the woodwork who this story may have initially passed by. But comments are 100% in favour so far. Well done Martine, join the ranks of a very worthy bunch of fierce women!

IDareSay · 23/06/2025 16:21

Pawse · 23/06/2025 13:41

She now has 109k followers. Anyone know how many she had before the pregnant woman comment?

The Times article says she has gained around 50,000 followers Grin

WandaSiri · 23/06/2025 15:52

WhatterySquash · 23/06/2025 11:28

Trans men do most definitely lack power. They are not pandered to and platformed to anything like the extent that TW are. Some accounts from detransitioners describe how they are exploited for sex by straight TW and other straight men (who know exactly what sex they prefer). As a TW you’ve been able to gain access to females in prisons, hospital wards, changing rooms etc, allowing predatory men to carry out attacks, flashing and other crimes, as well as being given women’s sports to exploit and gain from. But the only loophole where being a TM could give you an advantage, sexist primogeniture rules, has been closed PDQ.

However, even though “pregnant people” arises out of the belief that TM are men and that therefore men can be pregnant, it also serves to confuse, as people think of TW as men and that therefore it means TW (actual men) can be pregnant. It encourages the confusion in the NHS where actual males are treated as if they could be pregnant and it encourages the fetishization of female bodily processes by males, so you end up with males in breastfeeding groups and similar which destroys them for many women.

it is also downright rude and insulting to women. Only women, actual women, get pregnant. The fear of saying the word “woman” because a small group of women who choose to deny their womanhood might be offended, not giving a shit that huge numbers of women who are proud of their womanhood might be offended, is discriminatory. But more to the point it pisses women (and quite a few men) right off and when someone stands up to it publicly they’ll get a lot of support.

If trans men don’t like it, maybe they could lump it, since saying “pregnany woman” is in fact a reflection of reality? If they can’t face reality that’s their business but leave everyone else out of it. And BTW if you think you are “living as a man” while popping out babies you may have got the wrong end of the stick.

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Top posting. Thanks.

Firenzo · 23/06/2025 14:42

Chat GPT suggestions, none of which quite hit the rage inducing- ness of ‘pregnant people’ - only a loud ‘oh fuck off!’ really does it.

Bloke-Logic Analogies for “Pregnant People”

  1. Calling pregnant women ‘pregnant people’ is like calling footballers ‘goal-event participants.’
  2. It’s like referring to rugby players as ‘high-impact body units.’
  3. Like saying ‘pint-consuming mammals’ instead of ‘blokes at the pub.’
  4. It’s like renaming Sunday League lads ‘recreational pitch users.’
  5. Calling a darts team ‘projectile-orientated individuals.’
  6. Like referring to dads as ‘child-cohabitating contributors.’
  7. Like calling a bloke in his garage ‘a tool-manipulating unit.’
  8. It’s the verbal equivalent of calling Top Gear fans ‘motor appreciation organisms.’
  9. Like saying ‘DIY enthusiasts’ are ‘home improvement humanoids.’
  10. Like replacing ‘lad culture’ with ‘cis-male bonding dynamics.’
  11. Calling F1 drivers ‘high-speed steering personnel.’
  12. Referring to gym-goers as ‘muscle-engagement individuals.’
  13. Calling a striker ‘goal-adjacent person.’
  14. Like calling your best mate ‘designated emotional interaction module.’
  15. Like calling builders ‘structural assembly bipeds.’
WarriorN · 23/06/2025 14:35

Dunno but JK wished her well and hoped she’d had no trouble!