Please or to access all these features

Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

BBC presenter corrects pregnant people to pregnant women

285 replies

Theeyeballsinthesky · 22/06/2025 08:41

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1936513585082970489?s=46

and with a splendid eye roll to boot 😁

https://x.com/journalismseen/status/1936513585082970489?s=46

OP posts:
Thread gallery
12
Steelworks · 25/06/2025 07:32

I guess the guidance is fair enough, and the BBC do need to report a wide variety of views and opinions. I just hope it wasn’t posted in light of this situation and was due to be published anyway. If it wasn’t due, it’s a passive aggressive , sneaky, telling off

SternJoyousBee · 24/06/2025 20:20

SabrinaThwaite · 24/06/2025 19:50

Metaphorical prodding, there’s not a bargepole long enough in the real world.

😂😂😂😂

You don’t know how much I am resisting temptation to make the obvious joke about this particular person. 📸

SabrinaThwaite · 24/06/2025 19:50

SternJoyousBee · 24/06/2025 11:30

He expected to be dawned over with the special voice that is reserved for the most vulnerable, marginalised people 🙄
He wasn’t prepared for even the most polite prodding

Metaphorical prodding, there’s not a bargepole long enough in the real world.

genandtonic · 24/06/2025 19:42

Oh ffs. Wait till you have actual cancer and see how much you care about pronouns then.

Bunniesnotbullies · 24/06/2025 15:51

healthybychristmas · 24/06/2025 11:51

We never hear about people with prostate cancer, do we?

When they were interviewing poor marginalised men about the SC ruling on the radio, there was some TIM on talking in the most pathetic, whiny 'what about meeeeee' voice saying he needed treatment for cancer, can't go on the ward, yadda, yadda, yadda, urology which made me wonder if it was her prostate she was troubled with 🙃

HPFA · 24/06/2025 14:45

WhatterySquash · 23/06/2025 21:28

That's got "I'm biological and a woman therefore I'm a biological woman" vibes. i.e. logic fail-arama.

Fascinating how many people on that thread saying "don't they realise women are people?" thus revealing that they do in fact know that people who are pregnant are.....women. This comment doesn't make sense otherwise.

Proof No 54637236 of how they don't actually believe what they try so hard to believe.

DiamondThrone · 24/06/2025 13:51

Steelworks · 24/06/2025 12:02

I just hope the BBC don’t play the long game, and ease her out further down the line.

She's (with other kick ass women) already taken the BBC to court once, and won. I doubt the BBC will risk it again, especially with JKR's money on her side!

Steelworks · 24/06/2025 12:02

I just hope the BBC don’t play the long game, and ease her out further down the line.

ArabellaScott · 24/06/2025 11:58

'A BBC source said: “This is very good news. Bosses are intensely relaxed, it seems – perhaps even pleased with what she did. It’s down to the new chairman, in my opinion.”'

From the Telegraph article upthread.

Bring it.

lcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2025 11:57

India Willoughby is a real piece of work.

womanbornn · 24/06/2025 11:56

India Willoughby, Iran’s biggest fan, is encouraging people to complain to the BBC and asking for
Martine to be sacked. If she wasn’t gender critical before this incident, Martine definitely will be now!

healthybychristmas · 24/06/2025 11:51

We never hear about people with prostate cancer, do we?

SternJoyousBee · 24/06/2025 11:46

SternJoyousBee · 24/06/2025 11:30

He expected to be dawned over with the special voice that is reserved for the most vulnerable, marginalised people 🙄
He wasn’t prepared for even the most polite prodding

He obviously expected to be fawned over and I obviously expected my fat fingers to hit the correct keys

HRTQueen · 24/06/2025 11:44

NotBadConsidering · 23/06/2025 11:53

The term “pregnant people” isn’t about being nice and inclusive to trans identifying females. It’s about making sure the words woman and women doesn’t exclude trans identifying men. If you say “pregnant women” that excludes them, because it points out women doing something these men can’t: be pregnant.

As always, it’s all about the men.

absolutely agree

its another way of men keeping control and making sure they are centre of all decisions made in our society

SternJoyousBee · 24/06/2025 11:39

NotBadConsidering · 23/06/2025 11:53

The term “pregnant people” isn’t about being nice and inclusive to trans identifying females. It’s about making sure the words woman and women doesn’t exclude trans identifying men. If you say “pregnant women” that excludes them, because it points out women doing something these men can’t: be pregnant.

As always, it’s all about the men.

💯

MelodyMalone · 24/06/2025 11:32

SternJoyousBee · 24/06/2025 11:30

He expected to be dawned over with the special voice that is reserved for the most vulnerable, marginalised people 🙄
He wasn’t prepared for even the most polite prodding

Just kept repeating "Trump's America" and "how would you feel if someone said you weren't a woman" as if those were brilliant arguments.

SternJoyousBee · 24/06/2025 11:30

Livelovebehappy · 22/06/2025 15:50

Herbert seems to be floundering in the interview. I think he had a script in his head but once he had other questions fired at him he just couldn't cope. Intelligent he isn't....

He expected to be dawned over with the special voice that is reserved for the most vulnerable, marginalised people 🙄
He wasn’t prepared for even the most polite prodding

SternJoyousBee · 24/06/2025 11:28

spannasaurus · 22/06/2025 13:42

There was a link on a thread some months (possibly longer) ago to a strategy document that was about adopting TERF language to use it against women. So if TERFs talked about gender ideology TRAs should start using the phrase GC ideology, if TERFs use biological woman then TIMs should describe themselves as biological women a la Dr Upton ,essentially linguistic DARVO

I can't remember who produced the document but it wasn't Denton

…and yet they think that tactic doesn’t support OLTS?

These people are not very smart. 😂😂😂😂

Biology is now an ideology 😂😂😂

WhatterySquash · 24/06/2025 11:09

DiamondThrone · 24/06/2025 08:15

The thing is, she is and actual woman. But yes, same vibez.

Yes Sooz is a champion handmaiden. Falls over herself a lot to wade in with useless "arguments" to try to put people who care about women, children and gay people in their place.

As a PP said, her argument is like saying that if you say "Black lives matter" instead of "People's lives matter" you're saying black people aren't people. Is that right Sooz?

fromorbit · 24/06/2025 09:15

lcakethereforeIam · 24/06/2025 02:18

I'm not breaking the champagne open yet but, this is encouraging

https://archive.ph/LHJkV

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/06/23/bbc-backs-martine-croxall-pregnant-people-women/

Although, if I were a glass half empty type person, I'd be a little depressed at the breadcrumbs tossed our way. I'm grateful to Martine but to be genuinely fearful that this could cost her job. To know that this will see her the target of unhinged rage and batshittery. That this is how it is now. A newsreader using the word 'women to correct a scientist, a scientist, who didn't and it makes the fucking papers!

On that article:

SEEN in Journalism

People who say ‘why is it a big deal’ don’t understand that this has done more to tell BBC staff that things have changed than any staff-wide guidance.

What it tells them is that gender identity complaints activism is losing its power. This is what’s huge.

The gender mafia are losing their power inside the BBC.

The ripples from this are huge. All coming from the women who started fighting back, the courtcases they won and the medics who told the truth.

AwardGiselePelicotTheNobelPeacePrize · 24/06/2025 08:29

I am going with "pregnant carbon-based life forms" from now on, to be extra inclusive

DiamondThrone · 24/06/2025 08:15

WhatterySquash · 23/06/2025 21:28

That's got "I'm biological and a woman therefore I'm a biological woman" vibes. i.e. logic fail-arama.

The thing is, she is and actual woman. But yes, same vibez.

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 07:26

MelodyMalone · 23/06/2025 17:20

Good to see BBC are backing her. The Times article was interesting and does seem to mark a shift.

Tg the BBC are if do, not long ago she’d have lost her job. Crazily that would the case.

She’d better not now.

EasternStandard · 24/06/2025 07:24

Brilliant good on her.