Why is this subforum so intent on removing voices that dont' agree?

Is the picnic cancelled? Bugger. I'd made a cake (strangely enough with my homemade blackcurrant jam!)

For those with fruit gluts, I make liqueurs - my recipe (slightly modified from Good Food)

600g blackcurrants
750ml red wine
500g sugar
Large glass of gin or vodka.

Tidy up the berries (removing stalks, leaves and insects) and tip into a ceramic bowl. Pour over the wine and mash with a potato masher. Leave to macerate for two days with a tea towel over it, mashing occasionally. Pour through a sieve into a pan and add the sugar. Heat gently until the sugar has dissolved and then simmer for 5 minutes. Leave to cool then add the gin or vodka. Pour into sterilised bottles and keep for up to a year.

For strawberry liqueur, the same as above but with white wine.

I think that I am suspicious of anyone who writes blanket statements relating to feminists as ‘opposing trans rights’ . While there seems to be one ‘right’ in law regarding changing identification to say a male person is a ‘legal’ woman, I personally would describe much of the over reach that women are discussing with a view to change is guidance and policy. Do legal professionals refer to those policies and guidance points as ‘rights’ or consider them to be privileges or another term.

Either way, we are constantly told, or even had yelled at us in protests, that certain women ‘hate’ trans rights and want to erase all those rights. This is where blanket statements are confusing and they may be incorrect depending on what is meant by the terms.

It is not a statement that I am going to agree with without clarification. And it seems to me that asking for clarification was considered offensive by someone who also had complained that they had reported bullying and it hadn’t been deleted.

As the Supreme Court confirmed, a GRC is pretty worthless anyway as nobody can ask to see it, can record it or mention it in any way.

So...

Definitely.

Approved.

It is MNHQ that removes posts, @BeeSouriante - not ordinary posters in the Feminism section, or anywhere else on Mumsnet.

If you are having posts removed, it is because they have breached MNHQ’s Talk guidelines, pure and simple.

If you tell me human beings can actually change sex, I will defend your right to state your opinion. And I will be free to tell you that it is scientifically and medically impossible to change a person’s sex.

Obviously that should have been misrepresentation! Bloody fat fingers!

I'm assuming the claims about reducing trans rights is about repealing the GRA?

Amazing what a good dump of manure can do!

Yep that quote annoyed me too. It’s a gross miss presentation of the regular posters here. I would love for someone to tell us what rights trans people don’t have and what rights the posters on this board are against.

😂😂
I wondered why this tedious thread was still going - and here you all are - picnicking on the proceeds of all the gardener's best efforts

I don’t believe that the position on moderation was necessarily misunderstood. I think,
looking back, people were attempting to establish the intention of the poster’s point around ‘trans rights’.

Love Peak-nique , or even just Peak-nic

Uncanny!

That happened to me last year and then I made this recipe zucchini pickles and now I know how to deal with a glut. So good on a sandwich especially one with cheese.

respectfully, soz

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A cliquenique

Or a peaknique...

Piquenique??

Going to have to repectively disagree with you there I'm afraid.

The poster doubled-down in their next post:
But there are quite clearly people on this board who are opposed to trans rights and anybody suggesting that there is not is not being honest (perhaps even with themselves).
but repeatedly declined to explain what they meant.

I'm glad to see
To women, our rights and no less. To transpeople, their rights and no more.
gaining traction.

In fairness I should say that it's based on a Toronto Men's Group slogan from I think the 1980s - I've never been able to find anything about the group online, but the slogan stuck in my head when I heard someone quoting it from memory ages ago.

Those were the days when Men's Groups were thinking about how to be less oppressive to women than how to be even more oppressive to women. The original slogan was
To men, our rights and no more. To women, their rights and no less.

I've been making wine and liqueurs with overabundance of fruit for 20 odd years!

I went and bought a German fermenting thingy last year for the sloes. Anyway this is 1 of the branches of 1 of the blackberries. If I took a pic of the whole thing they were too small to see. Going to be picking very soon.

Next doors peach is also laden this year. They live 6 hours away so we get whatever fruit their trees produce in return for keeping their grass cut.

Is that a picnique?

I will soon be overrun with courgettes. I give it a week!

I don’t agree about the something else in the background and see it simply as a bit defensive after her position on moderation was misinterpreted and challenged. Sometimes we do race from one post to the next and/or make posts in haste, threads can move quickly and clarity can be lost.

It was not wholly clear to me whether use of the term ‘trans rights’ was being made in terms of suggesting TW needed more rights than they currently have, but I don’t think that was the intention. Anyhow, this sums up my perspective:

To women, our rights and no less. To transpeople, their rights and no more.

I'd have brought more but they get very sticky in this heat.

True, blackberry gin would be nice.

Sorry, I was having a snooze. And I notice someone nicked the wonderful dessert whilst I snoozed!