Reflections on Trans Arguments

I can sail along on that for a little while, but will soon need topping up with more validation.

Seriously, I've always disliked likes on any platform. At least here they aren't public (something Elon also got right).

And we I have LOVED your post back, because we I think that is how we I get validation

The totting up of ‘likes’ and attempting to use that to suggest that you are winning an argument is just playground stuff isn’t it?

Imagine if politicians or academics just sat around comparing who got the most likes on Twitter or who has the most FB friends rather than having debates 😂

@DiamondThrone I've LOVED your post, because LIKE doesn't seem to exist. However, I do feel that LOVE is too strong, so don't let it go to your head.

Meanwhile, back over in the rational world, the number of private, positive reactions to the OP perfectly satisfy us that this thread, and the statements provided - and backed up - at the outset, have merit

I expect these private positive reactions go to another school

I have given @FlirtsWithRhinos a LIKE for this comment!

She can now tot it up with all her other LIKES, which after all is the important thing here!

Size of LIKES matters, right?

I'm sorry I can't hear you.

It's weird how the LimeBike Collective are publicly stating their reaction count. Clearly they are more used to Reddit or similar where "winning" is based on everyone seeing who got the most likes / up/down votes.

It's a real shame. It conditions people to think in terms of snippy combacks rather than reasoned arguments and rewards replaying crowd pleasing greatest hits over original thought. Catchphrases are great for comedians and Reddit but not so good for forming coherent and persuasive arguments.

Limey sweetie, I'm sorry to have to tell you that - what was it when you posted earier, about 25? - is really not a big count for an OP. Most of the regulars here can guess at least half of the names you'll have got.

But even if it was, so what? We already know the world has plenty of TRAs and soft hearted useful allies. Doesn't make them actually right. It's not like whether women exist or not is dependant on a vote 😂

What works here is is posters making coherent arguments that can stand up to challenge, then engaging with opposing arguments, understanding them and refuting them rather than just ignoring or strawmanning them.

There has to be a website or hashtag along the lines of #batshitteryfoundonreddit

The rational world of Reddit

😂😂😂

Meanwhile, back over in the rational world, the number of private, positive reactions to the OP perfectly satisfy us that this thread, and the statements provided - and backed up - at the outset, have merit

yeah yeah yeah 😒

Beetle, I've said it before, but we need a third volume of Under the Duvet of Darkness....😁

Thats awesome 😍

Doesn't Pedro Pascal tweet in the third person? You don't think...🤔

The new Fantastic Four film looks rubbish.

And that mad SEENPolice guy.

'We' could be one person trying to make himself sound important. The WizardingNews account on Twitter does that. It's one bloke pretending to be an organisation.

Ha, yeah!

Disingenuous as always!

I've seen a they/them using we/us before. It reads very weirdly and makes them seem either schizophrenic or unwilling to own the words they're saying.

I have a funny image in my mind of a bunch of TRAs going nuts on discord deciding whose turn it is to log into their joint Mumsnet account and read all the mean words ( or not as the case may be).

Nah. A they/ them would still use me rather than us. It’s more than one person.

I’m still three pages off the end of the thread, so potentially this may now have been said several times, but logically, if this is a they/them then we is probably appropriate.

What a load of trans propaganda bollocks.
Humans can't change sex.
Men, no matter how they identify, should not be in women's private spaces.
No woman is cis - the word is real if you need to differentiate between a transwomen (biological man) and a real woman. Hence the change in terminology with a lot more people going with trans identified man, it's much more clear since a man is no sort of woman.
No man belongs in female sport, they have their own category. Destroying your body through wrong sex hormones doesn't justify colonisation of the female sports category.

Although he is, ahem, cavalier.

You do realise if you genuinely want to share information you don't start by being derogatory to people? It triggers them to think badly of you and then they don't trust what you have to say - credible or not.

People with valid things to say keep their language balanced.

Trans People are extremist! That's wot I done heard!
Puberty Blockers are Dangerous! My total lack of medical knowledge says so!

Na. More likely Harry breaking all the royal protocols about political subjects.