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is this legal

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javyd · 15/06/2025 19:30

is it legal for the RSPB to advertise this women only walk and then say it’s for anyone who identifies as a woman or anyone who is non binary? So basically a mixed sex walk:

https://events.rspb.org.uk/events/96479?fbclid=IwQ0xDSwK78EFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHuuR3UtdrATGnTTt5ySxJ2WYamEz4NDR_kaGslT5fzD6KXb0R73aBSl4iXxp_aem_Tl1LwIsISF5qJxKMiI80Bg

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Leafstamp · 15/06/2025 19:54

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:49

Again, try readying the whole thing. Or report to the police if you really think a law has been broken.

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It’s not a criminal matter so the police won’t do anything.

But it is unlawful and I would send a formal complaint to RSPB.

I will also start a thread on the feminism board on your behalf and ask some women to write.

BuckaDuck · 15/06/2025 19:53

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:49

Again, try readying the whole thing. Or report to the police if you really think a law has been broken.

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I have read it and it contradicts itself.

As suggested I have sent an email highlighting their error so they will hopefully remove the woman only claim or remove the part why they say males are also welcome.

Leafstamp · 15/06/2025 19:52

javyd · 15/06/2025 19:45

also, I’m not sure why I can’t post or reply in the feminism sex and gender area, unless this area is out of bounds for new members?

You have to have been a member for a day in order to post I think.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:51

javyd · 15/06/2025 19:49

aha! Thanks. I think these topics probably could do with being raised in a more populated place though from
time to time.

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You could try reporting it to ask mumsnet to move it to the relevant board? Not sure if it would work but you could try it.

Talkinpeace · 15/06/2025 19:50

It is discriminatory against non deluded men
to allow deluded men
into a women's space or event

Thus that RSPB advert is discriminatory
and misleading

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:49

BuckaDuck · 15/06/2025 19:49

But they have by saying its woman only.
You can't say it's woman only & accepts both sexes.
It has to be one or the other it can no longer be a free for all.

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Again, try readying the whole thing. Or report to the police if you really think a law has been broken.

TheNightingalesStarling · 15/06/2025 19:49

It would be illegal as the Equality act currently allows single sex spaces but not single gender.

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javyd · 15/06/2025 19:49

BuckaDuck · 15/06/2025 19:47

I think it is set at must be a member for 90 days I believe.

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aha! Thanks. I think these topics probably could do with being raised in a more populated place though from
time to time.

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Wolmando · 15/06/2025 19:49

javyd · 15/06/2025 19:45

also, I’m not sure why I can’t post or reply in the feminism sex and gender area, unless this area is out of bounds for new members?

Some of the boards on here are restricted and you have to be a member for a certain amount of time, there is probably a list somewhere, maybe, so I would think this board would be one of those.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:49

javyd · 15/06/2025 19:48

it’s advertised as a women only walk though fgs!

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Have you actually read anything other than that one line? Report it to the police if you think it’s illegal.

BuckaDuck · 15/06/2025 19:49

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:47

I didn’t say these people are women, I said they’ve very clearly explained the walk is not just for women.

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But they have by saying its woman only.
You can't say it's woman only & accepts both sexes.
It has to be one or the other it can no longer be a free for all.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:48

BuckaDuck · 15/06/2025 19:46

No it doesn't.
It says women only and women are female so if it wants to be open to both sexes it needs to remove the "woman only" part.

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I’ve quoted it from the website so saying it doesn’t say that makes you look silly.

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javyd · 15/06/2025 19:48

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:47

I didn’t say these people are women, I said they’ve very clearly explained the walk is not just for women.

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it’s advertised as a women only walk though fgs!

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TeenToTwenties · 15/06/2025 19:48

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:45

it very clearly explains who can attend. So what law is being broken? Or are you feeling bad for the men who identify as men?

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I don't know wrt the last.
But I don't see the point of something being 'women only' if you let in NB men.
Surely if people want a women only event they won't want NB men there.
So it rather defeats the point.

BuckaDuck · 15/06/2025 19:47

javyd · 15/06/2025 19:45

also, I’m not sure why I can’t post or reply in the feminism sex and gender area, unless this area is out of bounds for new members?

I think it is set at must be a member for 90 days I believe.

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:47

BuckaDuck · 15/06/2025 19:43

A woman is an adult human female as confirmed by the SC so if they are advertising a woman only walk then only females should be permitted to join the walk.
Transwomen are male.
Non binary males are well male.
Niether should be permitted.

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I didn’t say these people are women, I said they’ve very clearly explained the walk is not just for women.

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javyd · 15/06/2025 19:47

BuckaDuck · 15/06/2025 19:46

No it doesn't.
It says women only and women are female so if it wants to be open to both sexes it needs to remove the "woman only" part.

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yes, that was made very clear in the SC ruling, or so I thought!

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BuckaDuck · 15/06/2025 19:46

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:44

Then very clearly says ‘These events are welcoming of any adults who identify as women. We also welcome non-binary individuals who feel comfortable in a women’s only space to these sessions’

And then explains it again. You are deluded if you think this is illegal

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No it doesn't.
It says women only and women are female so if it wants to be open to both sexes it needs to remove the "woman only" part.

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javyd · 15/06/2025 19:46

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:44

Then very clearly says ‘These events are welcoming of any adults who identify as women. We also welcome non-binary individuals who feel comfortable in a women’s only space to these sessions’

And then explains it again. You are deluded if you think this is illegal

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it’s mixed sex then!

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ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:45

TeenToTwenties · 15/06/2025 19:44

Well it is misleading, as it isn't women only.

So I would question why it isn't open to men who identify as men, as they appear to be the only people excluded.

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it very clearly explains who can attend. So what law is being broken? Or are you feeling bad for the men who identify as men?

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javyd · 15/06/2025 19:45

also, I’m not sure why I can’t post or reply in the feminism sex and gender area, unless this area is out of bounds for new members?

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ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:44

javyd · 15/06/2025 19:43

it says this:

“Join us for a friendly & relaxed, women-only guided walk around The Lodge, led by our knowledgeable female volunteers. “

Then very clearly says ‘These events are welcoming of any adults who identify as women. We also welcome non-binary individuals who feel comfortable in a women’s only space to these sessions’

And then explains it again. You are deluded if you think this is illegal

TeenToTwenties · 15/06/2025 19:44

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:41

What about it could make this illegal? Trans and non binary people haven’t been banned for existing, and this event is for them as well as women. It’s very clear

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Well it is misleading, as it isn't women only.

So I would question why it isn't open to men who identify as men, as they appear to be the only people excluded.

BuckaDuck · 15/06/2025 19:43

ToKittyornottoKitty · 15/06/2025 19:36

Why would it not be legal?

A woman is an adult human female as confirmed by the SC so if they are advertising a woman only walk then only females should be permitted to join the walk.
Transwomen are male.
Non binary males are well male.
Niether should be permitted.

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javyd · 15/06/2025 19:43

it says this:

“Join us for a friendly & relaxed, women-only guided walk around The Lodge, led by our knowledgeable female volunteers. “

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