The Guardian - Trans Australian kicked out of toilet

One time I went to a gig in Australia. The ladies line was long. I used the gents. I got caught and told off by the security guard. Can I have an article in the guardian please.

Sounds like a load of BS has been scattered about in that story. The venue paid someone to police toilets? As if.

I understand she is frustrated. However, I think that because toilets are the thing that everyone uses so we can all relate to using them, yet it is the scenario that there is least support for single sex provision for, that is where the discussion goes.

Because very few people will disagree with refuges and prisons. A few more will disagree on changing rooms. But toilets will find women constantly saying ‘well my lovely trans friend is no threat’ or saying they don’t care. Hence the discussion.

“She was a stocky woman..,’no’, she commanded”

The battleaxe trope. Of course.

(Although I am perplexed by the idea of official toilet policing, as I have been using the ladies decades and never seen this. And actually wouldn’t want to.)

What a load of self-pitying drivel. Is it even true?

’trans people have been kicked off sports teams’ - do you mean that men are no longer allowed to compete in women’s sports, but they are perfectly free to compete against other men? But that doesn’t sound as terrible, does it?! 🙄🙄🙄

An archive link

https://archive.ph/FzsXC

As pp have posted if his fiction is written as poorly as that article I hope he has another source of income.

Given the pronouns in the linked article, my impression is that he identifies as non-binary, and he sometimes wears a dress and make up.

I couldn’t read it all, the writing is so bad it lurches from bad phrase to the next.

Also doubt this happened, what’s the name of the place that has someone paid to do this.

Yes but by making it about the toilets we can keep focus on the already privileged men and deflect from the real issues can't we.

I think we should stop engaging in talk about toilets tbh. I understand why they're important but it's not the only important thing in all this is it?

When I wrote to my MP about the ruling recently I spoke about representation on boards, all women shortlists and women's participation in public life specifically for this reason.

Funny isn't it how on social media so many men are wanging on about how the ruling will affect gender non-conforming women. But in real life the only people it seems to be affecting are men who are blatantly ignoring the law.

All the talking about pissing. Sounds rather manly.

In all honesty, when I first arrived here in the UK it was really taken aback by men telling me they were off for a pee. In Australia, I had rarely had that happen. We used to just say we were off to the loo. No need to elaborate. Yet, here I had work colleagues being rather more descriptive. But mainly blokes telling me this.

He is rather demonstrating why the SC decided as they did.

What a load of self pitying shite! He's so obviously a man in the linked picture. His whole shtick seems to be, "But it shouldn't include people like meee!"

The law's the law, chum. Everyone else obeys laws, or they face the consequences.

I think that means he's not even pretending to be a woman, he's just wearing women's clothes. So just a transvestite.

Jack is so vulnerable and marginalised he gets an opinion column in the Guardian to cry about the fact that women told him "no we don't want an entitled bloke in the women's toilets".

Honest to god, is the Guardian this desparate for click bait revenue?

Hes a writer? Im quite surprised as I find the quality of the writing poor. Also surprised at the use of "presenting feminine" rather than "female".

Obvious man is obvious and belongs in the men’s

I certainly don't believe the bit about strangers clamouring in his defence!

to be fair he did say ‘I think’ at this point (so even he knows he’s fibbing)

I don’t believe that…and i am very open to believing things at face value initially

i absolutely believe that they were kicked out of the ladies, but I do not believe that there was an official woman paid by the club to stand outside the bogs to ‘police’ them

i also don’t believe that if they were kicked out by a random woman that she said ‘its not me….its just the way things are now 😩’

Diddums.

Why in gods green earth would Jack think he can use the women’s loo, aside from a crashing sense of entitlement? Earrings and a frock don’t make him a woman.

We had the weeping (or crying - maybe Australians don't 'weep').

For a minute afterwards I stood crying against the wall.

I’m not going to give the Guardian more clicks for what seems like a blatant attempt to gain sympathy for this whingeing man.

Looking at his picture, I’m very glad whoever it was booted him out of the ladies. Utter creep.

Cool story, just needed someone weeping and not feeling safe to get a full scorecard

Jack is a creep