The Guardian - Trans Australian kicked out of toilet

Parallels to RW in the HoC, appealing to and manipulating women into enabling them to attack women's rights.

Yes, because they wanted to.

I have no sympathy for all this woe. Don't use and abuse women and they won't have to upset you with the word 'no'.

I wonder if those female friends will eventually understand what they enabled on the very flimsy excuse of ‘I wanted to’.

I have to call this out as an Australian. I have had more issues in the UK with sexism than I did in Australian. There is this stereotype that I see often here on MN and I don’t believe that the UK is better at all.

storminabuttercup · Today 11:38

Hang on If he only uses the men’s when he is in men’s clothes why would he get the side eye and smirks?
I’m calling bull shit on the whole thing

I agree entirely, I've already made that point, but wanted to congratulate you for your excellent username!

Well diddums to them too.

Anyone who says they are a woman is a woman. Stonewall officially reclassified cross dressers as trans under the trans umbrella. Acceptance without Exception was the slogan. Followed by no debate.

You don't get to pick and choose on this, or 'suddenly revoke the human rights of people who had been granted those rights'.

How very transphobic of TRAs.

Speculative fetishistic fiction methinks.

Some of the more trutransy TRAs might not appreciate this intervention either, I don’t think.

Well he can do like Robin then. He'll have a choice between the disabled due to his health condition and the mens at that point won't he?

His prostate though, it's just biding its time.

He's not got a bladder that identifies as feminine. Thats definitely a male sized bladder thats not gone through childbirth.

Thats the same Eddie Izzard who manages to identify as a male when it comes to acting roles and cross dressed for years and years before identifying as a woman whilst (presumably) using the gents without issue throughout his mere cross dressing period isn't it?

Just need to check its the same bloke who didn't have a problem with his safety in toilets until he identified as having a problem with his safety in toilets (and then apparently this unsafeness was ironically a bunch of teenage girls in the ladies!).

That Eddie Izzard?

I can't believe he got to 2 am before he needed a wee.

The silly man was probably getting it from both sides as the TRAs won't like him saying he's not a woman, and rational people think he should have gone to the men's.

Jack has locked his twitter account.

He really thought his entitlement and behaviour was completely acceptable and didn't count on push back.

I expect they were doing the opposite. If anything.

Okay, just read the whole substack. What a load of shite. Fiction writer indeed.

You can edit for a short amount of time after posting. Not long though, a few minutes.

If only MN would allow us to edit after publication like other sites do!
Actually I've never sprayed a urinal in my life!

Exactly!!! MUST BE A WOMAN, because they were crying.

FGS!

I don't get it! Would someone enlighten me?
I'm supposed to let a person with a p walk into a room in which I might be doing personal things, and be able to listen to me using the toilet, JUST BECAUSE THEY'VE DECIDED TO WEAR A DRESS?
So if I'm wearing jeans or chinos, I can just walk into a room in which me are spraying urinals and talking about women?

Jack Nicholls is a British-Australian essayist and speculative-fiction writer based in Melbourne

This is obviously an example of his fictional writing. It's really very poor all round.

I’d rather hear from the woman dealing with men like this.

Why do the males always need to be centre, aided by the press.

Also, while there are dickhead men everywhere, I find it hard to believe in a club venue in a very liberal and alternative leaning place like Camden (where KOKO is), that a man in a dress would get much trouble in the gents.

Last time I was at KOKO ther were loads of flamboyantly dressed men, including several in full make and at least one in a slashed to the naval sparkly cat suit.
London nightlife people are generally a tolerant bunch who have seen a lot.

His view appears to be if it's a choice between men potentially looking at him funny or women potentially being genuinely distressed/afraid the better option is to distress the women.
I think that's the bit they aren't supposed to say out loud.

Over at transgenderuk there is surprise that the ‘terfy as fuck’ Guardian have run this story. Interestingly one post questions whether it’s a true story due to the speculative-fiction-author angle 🧐