NHS Policy Audit - working party -Thread #3

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SEEN in Journalism continuing to promote the SEEN in Health tweets of the audit:

https://nitter.net/JournalismSEEN/status/2020727098160079256#m

I thought that might be the case. I assume he is now looking specifically for personal accounts of how the policies have negatively impacted staff and patients.

It’s clear “one” woman objecting is apparently deemed insufficient by ET judges. Darlington had power in numbers and the more specific examples of the negative impact on women across the UK by NHS policies will help. It shouldn’t as one woman or girl saying no should be respected.

I believe that Knotty has already been in touch with Nick Wallis so he is aware of our work.

Absolutely. Nick would be ALL OVER this.

(I wish I could commit to helping but really not in a position to do so at present.)

Now tax return season is over count me in too 😘

@KnottyAuty I am a subscriber to Nick Wallis’ Gender Blog. Nick has just finished his draft of his book about the Post Office and is now focusing on Gender Wars.

He is interested in the NHS and says “Also, if you have any current documentation pointing to capture in your organisation and/or examples of sanction (formal or social) for those who attempt to question the orthodoxy do pass it on. Everything will be dealt with in the utmost confidence.”

I thought of you. This is his website with contact details. https://nickwallis.com/contact/

Count me in for further research

I will be up for some more thread wrangling if needed

I’m up for that 😀

To use an excellent expression learnt on FWR “ they are be clowning themselves” 🤡🤡🤡🤡

Unfortunately it will take a lot of bravery by women to make the complaints. We need to get the word out far and wide that these policies are unlawful. It will still take guts for anyone to challenge them on a daily basis but there are thousands of women out there willing to garden and support in whatever ways they can. We are growing in numbers every batshit court case that is reported

@Cantunseeit you are absolutely right. Sorry I forgot to add that they (execs) will be addressing every complaint on a case by case basis. As if they have nothing better to do.

Definitely. We had a great system going by the end of the last round and we should be able to hone it further so we can rip through the updates PDQ

@Thecomedyclubseems a strange direction to take by your Trust. Darlington judgment was clear about bio sex re EqA and the workplace regs. Even Kemp’s car crash of a judgment conceded that Fife was wrong not to provide SS facilities for Peggie after she complained. Furthermore the Kelly judgment (not nhs but workplace loos) did not uphold Maria Kelly’s claims because not enough women complained/ she didn’t complain correctly.

I may be wide of the mark with the above loosey goosey interpretation but it seems clear that the route your Trust is considering leaves it open to having to promptly and effectively manage complaints on an ongoing basis, or risk ending up in a ET.

An open sore which will eat up management time that should be focused on something else

“Apparently” “they” are worried.

I expect it’s just one or at best two people. Or maybe just a flight of fancy by management. Transmen have suddenly become a big cause for concern, I wonder why?

And apparently they are worried about a sex based decision impacting on their ability to use male toilets.

@Thecomedyclub Is there anyway that can be fact checked? It is very unusual that transmen want to use men’s toilets. Usually transmen want ‘gender neutral’ (which means unisex in design) and transwomen want to be in the women’s.

In the meantime, ladies, apparently the view remains that if someone identifies as a/has a GRC/hasn’t declared but is now a woman, you can use any lavatory you fancy.

We have to hope that more women are emboldened, as the Darlington nurses were, to protest. It needs to be more than a lone individual like Sandie Peggie or Maria Kelly.

I have some bad news to share. My Trust is reviewing their trans policy.
I could leave that there…

However, I have had a sneak preview.
It looks like our policy will be very trans-focused.

I understand the Board are tying themselves in knots after the Darlington rulings. They are now also waiting for guidance following the Supreme Court decision. And hiding behind the “we are waiting for the Gov decision “

In the meantime, ladies, apparently the view remains that if someone identifies as a/has a GRC/hasn’t declared but is now a woman, you can use any lavatory you fancy.

The problem the Board has is that there are loads of trans men in the Trust. We’re talking employees not patients.

And apparently they are worried about a sex based decision impacting on their ability to use male toilets.

I am trying to work out a way to respect that while still protecting women’s right to safe spaces. It appears our Trust is more concerned about Trans women than women but it’s not entirely clear yet. To be continued…

Let's do it. These twisting bastards need their feet held to the fire.

Well done all of you!!!!

Well that is just fabulous and what a name check

Top work! 💪

https://x.com/SEENinHealth/status/2015767601092104408

They're calling it #Knottyaudit 😍