Trans sibling in law

It's a cunning strategy alright

I think Butler always knew she was writing utter bollocks but deliberately couched it in impenetrable language so that most people would not understand it, relying on the fact that most people would not want to admit that they do not understand it.

This is a great point.

It's not just women who are "limited" by their sex. Men cannot "choose" to have children, they require someone else to provide them with children. If everyone else refuses to provide a man with a child, they are limited in making their life what they want it to be.

We are all humans. Some are adults, some are child. Some are male, some are female. The rest of it is down to the individual human.

That's not reductive. It's just a fact.

Butler wrote utter bollocks but was trying to sound intellectual. The people who buy it are those who identify as intellectual and because Butler speaks in a particular way they believe she must be right.

Its the polar opposite of how Trump supporters like how he speaks and believe him because he's 'no nonsense'.

What either says is irrelevant. It's about identity and belonging to a club.

But I can't choose, or not, to bear children. No man can; it's another example of sex mattering - it does constrain what we can and cannot do. Gender doesn't though, does it? There is no reason why a feminine-presenting man with the right physique and talent couldn't play international men's rugby.

Ah but donchakno a transwoman is still a transwoman even when wearing jeans and a tshirt. Lots of women wear jeans and a tshirt and no makeup so a transwoman has no need to perform femininity to be trans, and it'snot about clothes. It's just somethings they know they are in their souls. What I don't get is how they know that the internal feeling they have is the thing that should be labelled "being a woman" rather than just "being a man who doesn't fit with idiotic male stereotypes". I've never had a satisfactory answer to that which doesn't boil down to "because they are deeply sexist and believe all the sexist propaganda that feminists have been fighting against for many decades" - it is not possible to compare the subjective perception-of-self that any individual has and categorise it in any way because each individual can only ever perceive their own and no one else's.

The thing that cracks me up is that she "struggled to understand why Butler had to write in such unnecessarily convoluted ways".

I think most people on this board could explain that one.

Please explain how when a man puts on a dress and make up, how he stops being a man? What is it that has changed? How is he now a woman?

The whole gender id nonsense, is as many civil wars are, designed and funded by the government to distract from their policies. Literally no elected man or women thinks trans women are not men. Same with the importation of third world men on their watch, We argue amongst each other while they plan and document their plan to build a digital prison. We are building it for them.

To whom?

Love this 😂

My eldest son had a doll in a cot, a hoover, a play kitchen, Lego and a rugby ball (amongst other things) he also wore a pink shirt to a wedding this weekend. He’s very successful in his career, as is my lovely DIL, who is senior to him, and he does all the cooking. I have clearly failed miserably as a parent because I’m buggered if I know what his GI is.

I hope you didn’t spend any money on that degree, because if this is what you’ve learned you wasted your time.

I don’t know if you being deliberately hard of understanding, I really can’t tell. Perhaps you are determined not to try and understand anything said to you on this board as a matter of principle?

There are differences between and women which sometimes need accommodation.

Both men and women might or might not want to become parents. We all have that choice. But for women, the choice is more loaded, less free perhaps, because it will cost us in terms of physical strain, having to take maternity leave, losing out in terms of career. Men can become parents without such a high personal cost. So women need accommodation of some sort to allow for us to retain our job and try and even the playing field.

Much of the physical world is designed for men (read “Invisible Women”, it is an incredibly interesting book). We are on average smaller and weaker than men, especially in upper body strength.

This is real; it doesn’t mean we are worth less, or are not as clever, or not as valuable. It is just a fact.

So I am delighted you have never felt the need for any accommodation whatsoever, that is marvellous for you.

However, that doesn’t detract from the fact that women can be disadvantaged by our biology in a world designed for the default human being male. Same as being left-handed in a world designed where the default human is right-handed. Sometimes it is a bloody nuisance.

Show off 😂

It's amazing what you can learn at the university of MN.

You might find it distasteful (though she’s certainly not boring), but she’s making the point that that scenario does involve a form of consent. It isn’t the same as being overpowered and raped at knifepoint in a dark alley, is it?

You’re the one who doesn’t want women to be regarded as victims. You may not agree with her (and I’m not sure I do either); but her whole thing is a form of feminism which also doesn’t pretend women have no agency either (which I’d have thought you’d approve of?)

I am off to celebrate by having a peanut whiskey with baileys

so chemistry

Thank you so much practising its been a long time coming, i now know that the square root of an isosceles triangle is something or other, and that shaking stevens wrote a story about a cigar….think it was a hamlet cigar so now i feel quite educated

Congratulations rufus I'm so proud of all the hard work you've done to achieve this.

yellow..?

Dammit i was aiming for gold 😀

Ooo yellow. Is that non binary?

How do you make that choice though?

By entirely abstaining from sex, which is pretty good? Or by taking ALL the responsibility for contraception within a sexual relationship? By altering your hormones / cycle to avoid it? Ensuring, somehow, that you are never raped, which is impossible to ensure because you cannot control other people? By undergoing painful and traumatic procedures to terminate an accidental pregnancy that goes against your "choice"?

On the other hand, ask a man to make a "choice" about how to avoid being a father, especially in the accidental pregnancy scenario. Their choice is to...just not be one.

Yes we have choices around reproduction and our lives and careers. But we still have to take the action to ensure we are able to stick to those choices, where men wouldn't. And that is entirely down to our biology.

Want…fuck my life

I have obviously put a filter on…don’t wan5 my true image out there