Women’s Rights Network Scotland has imploded

You seem to forget about that Trump supporter putting up comments and material the day after you advised her about your late term abortion. If anyone is wondering, she was making anti late abortion comments and putting up links to this anti abortion crap. But according to John, she wasn't bullied at all. I had to send a message to the lead about it, yes that seems to be forgotten.

I’ve not read everything yet so this might have been pointed out already. You’ve forgotten to mention the reason WRN Scotland decided to chuck us all out - some internal WRN business was shared in the new group on at least 2 occasions. Not just because we were in another group.

I am starting to think so 😂😂 I am just saying what my unfortunate experience was of this group. Within a day, I saw a poor woman being bullied out the group after being targeted by two members on the group chat. That was red flag number one after being told they are open to different opinions. This woman was even subjected to name calling.
The chat then turned to late abortion and a woman who had a late abortion was targeted by a Trump supporter (one of the two who bullied the first woman). This Trump supporter gets to stay in the group. Second red flag.
They use Twitter as resources of information and spread nasty propaganda about trans community. They didn't like it when I pointed out how much fake information is on twitter and it's not classed as research. Third red flag.
I ask for info on surrogacy and try to discuss the two sides with information detailing the pros and cons of surrogacy. They don't realise that there are two sides to the argument. I get berated and then get nasty private messages.
Last red flag and I apparently took the huff and left. No I left this toxic environment.

Oh my lord, it seems that one of the admins is not happy either and has changed WRNS X profile.

Were you there? No didn't think so. I know what happened, they do too.

The chat that WRNS shut down (without consultation) was the Scotland-wide group. Some of those who missed having a national group created a new non-WRNS group. Someone in that group shared the list of members with WRNS admins, who then threw all the new chat group members out of WRNS without due processes being followed. So it seems that WRNS has exploited a data breach of another group - not a good look.

I am all for single sex spaces but some of the anti-trans crap they would post was shocking. A lot of it from Twitter and this was apparently "research". One was a blatant fake story but they took it as gospel as it fed their agenda.
You can surely support sex based rights without constant daily anti-trans material being posted on your group chat? Well not to them..

It was me who had the late abortion, no one bullied me and I'm still there.
You left around half an hour in to the surrogacy conversation, you didn't even stay it out, though of course no feminist would agree with it.
Even then, that was a rare occurrence they there's a disagreement, you couldn't cope with it.
Nowhere in life will everyone agree, adults discuss it.

Well, that's your take. Others are saying differently.

You're patronising a woman who is clearly capable of speaking for herself, plus making a lot of serious allegations.

You're patronising a woman who is clearly capable of speaking for herself, plus making a lot of serious allegations.

I'm sorry, but I was also in the chat and I did not see any homophobia. Cynicism of the progress pride flag, yes, similar to threads on here, but not homophobia. Many of the women in the chat were lesbians and also many (like me) have gay and lesbian friends. I find that upsetting that you would say that and tar everyone with that slur. I think the problem is a lot of the women on the chat had been hardened by threats from tras over a number of years, some had been assaulted, some had experience in police, public sector and various organisations shutting them up and bullying them. So they were not prepared to tolerate the constant pushing of things that had an impact on women's rights.

Because they are purely anti-trans organisations that contribute nothing to feminism and are staffed by a mix of people from the far-right to the center.

Calling them "feminist" orgs is an insult to feminism and to women.

Obviously if your organisation is based purely on creating conflict in order to rake in money and attention eventually you're gonna turn that inwards.

You were getting bullied dear - I have eyes. Don't be gaslighted. I seem to remember the surrogacy conversation going on for several hours and I left when I got a private message with abuse. I wanted a good debate but couldn't as some couldn't open their eyes to the opposite side - ignorance at its finest. Who in their right kind would stay with nasty b@stards who treat people like that? You are welcome to them.
I knew eventually the organisation would implode the way it has - Rotten fruit falls on its own. Bye 😂😂

It was me who had the late abortion, no one bullied me and I'm still there.
You left around half an hour in to the surrogacy conversation, you didn't even stay it out, though of course no feminist would agree with it.
Even then, that was a rare occurrence they there's a disagreement, you couldn't cope with it.
Nowhere in life will everyone agree, adults discuss it.

Yeah some of the homophobia was quite bad within the chats.

Because they are purely anti-trans organisations that contribute nothing to feminism and are staffed by a mix of people from the far-right to the center.

Calling them "feminist" orgs is an insult to feminism and to women.

Obviously if your organisation is based purely on creating conflict in order to rake in money and attention eventually you're gonna turn that inwards.

To be honest, just reading this thread gives an excellent example of why an organisation may limit chat across different topics. If you are a single issue campaign group - protecting the definition of ‘woman’ and therefore women’s spaces- you can’t afford to talk about anything else.

Clearly surrogacy and abortion are off limits.

I can see the desire to keep it very focused and controlled.

Your opinion and you are entitled to it. But if an organisation states they are open to discussion and others opinions but then berate and bully people who disagree with them (including being nasty to a woman who had a late abortion and including the PMs of abuse I got that "made me go in a huff" when all I did was express an opinion) then I want nothing to do with them. Classy women to say the least.

WRN is definitely NOT a lefty organisation. I know some very active women who were removed for challenging racism and homophobia within the supposedly "non-political" organisation which apparently welcomed robust discussion... And no they weren't abusive.

WRN is not a membership organisation in the way that most women's groups are. It isn't a charity or CIC with any form of democratic governance, it's a "private company limited by guarantee without share capital". In effect, the 6 directors led by Heather Binning can do as they wish. The "membership" have no say whatsoever.