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How to talk about 'trans-girl' in my son's class.

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user1471471849 · 11/06/2025 15:59

Hello,

My son is 7 and there is a 6 year old trans-girl (aka a boy who identifies as a girl) in his school. It's a small school so everyone interacts with each other a lot. When the boy first socially transitioned and started wearing girls clothes and changed their name it was hard to know how to explain this to my son. He's a clever guy who asks hard questions and he was confused about what was going on. I went with the line that the child is a boy but is confused and feels he's a girl and not to bring it up to avoid arguments or hurt feelings.
Just to be clear, I don't agree with the parents' choice to socially transition such a young kid, I feel the kid is being pushed into this.. But it's not my place to say and I'm conscious of the poor kid's mental health and not wanting to make his life harder. To me, sex is binary and immutable but I knew that I'd eventually run into problems. Unfortunately, my son doesn't get on well with this kid and has made comments about him really being a boy. So we were called into the principal's office today saying the boy (or girl in the child's mind) is transgender and is a girl now. I explained what I'd told my son- that the child is biologically a boy but is confused and feels he's a girl and to not bring it up. I also said I wasn't willing to lie to my child and say that you can change sex and I got the impression that they agreed but said it's the school policy ( here and nationwide- in Ireland) to accept this.

Obviously, we don't want our son to be upsetting anyone so we'll make sure he knows to be very mindful of people's feelings but it's such a hard road to navigate (being truthful with him and trying to make sure he doesn't upset the child by passing on his thoughts on the matter- it's not a nice situation for anyone). I know we're going to come up against this again. The parents haven't said anything to us but I reckon it's only a matter of time.
If anyone has any advice on how I could manage this situation better please let me know.

Thanks.

OP posts:
AnSolas · 16/12/2025 17:11

@user1471471849 as your child has extra needs I would not remove him from the school without involving the DofE and the council for special ed as other local schools may not be able to take him.

https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/education/special-education-needs/the-law-on-special-educational-needs/

IMO Its always easier to be the squeeky wheel in the school rather than lone parents with no school place due to "your choice" to remove him.

The school are engaged in discrimination under the Equal Status act on the disability grounds.

TheKeatingFive · 16/12/2025 15:05

Balab · 16/12/2025 11:50

Put the trans stuff aside and concentrate on parenting your own child - who, IMO has made a couple of transgressions:

  1. you told him not to say anything - he went against this direct instruction from you. He needs to obey your instructions.

  2. the trans stuff is irrelevant - you do not hurt the feelings of another person. That’s not to say you agree with the ideology. I think your child needs to understand that this child is a person and therefore he should not say things that he knows will upset that person. He should remove himself from the situation.

You say he’s clever, so these two amendments should be easy for him to understand and carry out.

Why must children be compelled to lie to avoid 'hurting feelings'? It's not the OP's child's fault that this child cannot deal with their reality?

RedToothBrush · 16/12/2025 14:54

Balab · 16/12/2025 11:50

Put the trans stuff aside and concentrate on parenting your own child - who, IMO has made a couple of transgressions:

  1. you told him not to say anything - he went against this direct instruction from you. He needs to obey your instructions.

  2. the trans stuff is irrelevant - you do not hurt the feelings of another person. That’s not to say you agree with the ideology. I think your child needs to understand that this child is a person and therefore he should not say things that he knows will upset that person. He should remove himself from the situation.

You say he’s clever, so these two amendments should be easy for him to understand and carry out.

God if only you understood the problem and how forced repeating of lies harms others compelled to go against it.

Why is no one kind to those who see and understand reality? Why do they have to uphold bullshit.

This is gaslighting abusive shit.

AnSolas · 16/12/2025 14:23

Balab · 16/12/2025 11:50

Put the trans stuff aside and concentrate on parenting your own child - who, IMO has made a couple of transgressions:

  1. you told him not to say anything - he went against this direct instruction from you. He needs to obey your instructions.

  2. the trans stuff is irrelevant - you do not hurt the feelings of another person. That’s not to say you agree with the ideology. I think your child needs to understand that this child is a person and therefore he should not say things that he knows will upset that person. He should remove himself from the situation.

You say he’s clever, so these two amendments should be easy for him to understand and carry out.

The OPs child has as much of a right to make his own choices as the other child. He has no obligation to play along with the demand that he pretends the boy is a girl and uses wrong sex pronouns.

If the other child is in the same class there will always be situations where he can not and should not have to remove himself from class activities.

TBH the bend over backwards to "Be Kind" is always only one way. Where is the "Be Kind" from the adults in the school who have a legal obligation to not force their and the other family's and the childs social expectation on a child who is only there to go to school? Why are they refusing to see the OPs child as a person who should not be bullied for being honest about what he sees?

Why is it that the school are breaching basic safeguarding of all the girls in his class by allowing a male into the female changing rooms when the girls are changing after swimming? This will be all fun and games once these girls start worrying about puberty and periods and some parents will begin to stand up for their girls rights.

user1471471849 · 16/12/2025 13:26

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 16/12/2025 12:45

Do you have kids?

6/7 year old are really little. They probably believe in father Christmas!

You, and some other posters are acting as though what the OPs boy has said is irrelevant and just like any other incidence of unkindness.

It isn't; he and the other children are being gaslit to ignore the evidence of their own eyes . He knows he is being lied to by trusted adults, and he is confused. Punishing him for his confusion is going to be terribly harmful.

I'm not suggesting he should deliberately go out of his way to upset the trans girl, but people who are upset by reality are going to be upset sometimes. Its not reasonable to expect the entire world to lie because you can't cope with reality.

That poor child (trans girl), their parents are causing them a world of confusion and upset and setting them up for a lifetime of unhappiness - because they are being sold a lie.

Incidentally, there is no 'human right' , as a PPsaid/the OPwas told by school, to be recognised as the opposite sex (I can't stand people quoting made up 'human rights' to try to justify their behaviour):

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

However, the following articles may be relevant here:

18 Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion...

19 Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression...

26(3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

Thanks Aston, great to see that info.
This one also drew my eye:
Article 26

  1. Everyone has the right to education. Education shall be free, at least in the elementary and fundamental stages. Elementary education shall be compulsory. Technical and professional education shall be made generally available and higher education shall be equally accessible to all on the basis of merit.

My son was put on 7 months of reduced hours in school last year by the principal and I only found out afterwards that it's supposed to be for a maximum of 6 weeks. Even though I pointed that out to her she is trying to manage him out of the school imo and has said he should now go on another 3 months of reduced hours, with the first 3 weeks being just 2 hours a day. I can't even begin to describe the totalitarian, dictatorial shitshow that is that school. Words fail me.

And this
Article 5
No one shall be subjected to torture or to cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

My son was punished and a report written against him for having a panic attack. Instead of trying to help him calm down and just open the fucking locked door he was trying to get out of, they stood there taking notes on his behaviour and what he was saying in a complete blind panic. These people have no true compassion.

Also, when she said it's a 'human right', I was tempted to say 'what about women's rights' but sure, what's the point. I might as well shout into the wind. If these thoughts haven't occurred to her yet it's either wilful ignorance or it just doesn't suit her agenda to acknowledge that all people have rights. People like that principal should not in positions of power and should definitely not be in charge of children.

OP posts:
BettyBooper · 16/12/2025 12:52

user1471471849 · 16/12/2025 12:30

The feelings of the trans child should not be more important than the feelings of every other child in the school who are being directed to ignore reality and lie to themselves. Yes, I agree he shouldn't upset anyone on purpose but he shouldn't be forced to accept something as fact and to believe something he clearly doesn't believe. If children are being taught to ignore their instincts and not to question adults when they say black is white, where will that lead them?

Absolutely.

For what it's worth, I think you're doing the right thing.

AstonScrapingsNameChange · 16/12/2025 12:45

Balab · 16/12/2025 11:50

Put the trans stuff aside and concentrate on parenting your own child - who, IMO has made a couple of transgressions:

  1. you told him not to say anything - he went against this direct instruction from you. He needs to obey your instructions.

  2. the trans stuff is irrelevant - you do not hurt the feelings of another person. That’s not to say you agree with the ideology. I think your child needs to understand that this child is a person and therefore he should not say things that he knows will upset that person. He should remove himself from the situation.

You say he’s clever, so these two amendments should be easy for him to understand and carry out.

Do you have kids?

6/7 year old are really little. They probably believe in father Christmas!

You, and some other posters are acting as though what the OPs boy has said is irrelevant and just like any other incidence of unkindness.

It isn't; he and the other children are being gaslit to ignore the evidence of their own eyes . He knows he is being lied to by trusted adults, and he is confused. Punishing him for his confusion is going to be terribly harmful.

I'm not suggesting he should deliberately go out of his way to upset the trans girl, but people who are upset by reality are going to be upset sometimes. Its not reasonable to expect the entire world to lie because you can't cope with reality.

That poor child (trans girl), their parents are causing them a world of confusion and upset and setting them up for a lifetime of unhappiness - because they are being sold a lie.

Incidentally, there is no 'human right' , as a PPsaid/the OPwas told by school, to be recognised as the opposite sex (I can't stand people quoting made up 'human rights' to try to justify their behaviour):

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

However, the following articles may be relevant here:

18 Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion...

19 Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression...

26(3) Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.

Universal Declaration of Human Rights | United Nations

A milestone document in the history of human rights, the Universal Declaration of Human Rights set out, for the first time, fundamental human rights to be universally protected. It has been translated into over 500 languages.

https://www.un.org/en/about-us/universal-declaration-of-human-rights

user1471471849 · 16/12/2025 12:30

Balab · 16/12/2025 11:50

Put the trans stuff aside and concentrate on parenting your own child - who, IMO has made a couple of transgressions:

  1. you told him not to say anything - he went against this direct instruction from you. He needs to obey your instructions.

  2. the trans stuff is irrelevant - you do not hurt the feelings of another person. That’s not to say you agree with the ideology. I think your child needs to understand that this child is a person and therefore he should not say things that he knows will upset that person. He should remove himself from the situation.

You say he’s clever, so these two amendments should be easy for him to understand and carry out.

The feelings of the trans child should not be more important than the feelings of every other child in the school who are being directed to ignore reality and lie to themselves. Yes, I agree he shouldn't upset anyone on purpose but he shouldn't be forced to accept something as fact and to believe something he clearly doesn't believe. If children are being taught to ignore their instincts and not to question adults when they say black is white, where will that lead them?

OP posts:
user1471471849 · 16/12/2025 12:23

Sexnotgendah · 16/12/2025 07:58

Your beliefs are protected- this has not been tested in Ireland as there have been no court cases in Ireland (Enoch Burke’s case has centred on contempt of court) however the Maya Forstater case used EU legislation. You should clarify with the school exactly what the policy is and whether they have done an impact assessment and a risk assessment prior to implementing this policy. You should also ask the school how their policies in this context protect children with religious beliefs and neurodiverse children. Contact the Countess or Genspect they should be able to help you.

I looked into this and was told that we could bring a case against him but that we would be questioned on why we don't just move schools. Also, my son is possibly neurodivergent (getting tested for ADHD) and I don't want to put him through any more turmoil. I worry that his character might be questioned, as some users have here, when although he is very bright, he does question things. Also, he hasn't gone out of his way to 'misgender' but it has come up 3 times in 2 years.

( the rest of this message is a general reply to all)
Although it's hard for adults to tell the difference between a prepubescent boy or girl, kids know the difference straight away. He's asked me why X is a boy but says he's a girl. He's said he looks like a boy, talks like a boy so why is he saying he's a girl. How can you possibly explain that to a kid other than say the boy is confused.

The trans-identifying boy's gender distress is imo, being driven by his parents. When he used his boys name recently, the parents reminded him that he was now 'girlsname'. He obviously is very confused because if there's a boys v girls game he doesn't know where to go. He teases classmates that he is a boy.

There is a clique of blue-haired parents in that school who are determined to stamp out any dissenting voices and have targeted my son and labeled him a troublemaker. They've brought false complaints against him and only for we were witnesses we might have believed them. We've seen him play normally and be perfectly well-behaved and they've still found some reason to give out. That was recently and it was the last straw for us.

So it's through the entire culture of the school and noone else will stand up to them. They are on the board of management, the PTA and the woman I think is behind it all has the principal in her back pocket. We all have to twist reality and walk on eggshells to suit the needs and whims of 3 special families. The whole thing is toxic and abusive and the best thing to do is get as far away from these people as possible.

My husband and I were so angry at the treatment our son has received that we considered lodging a formal complaint. The principal herself has mistreated him. I won't go into details as I'd be here all day. She talks a good talk though and could probably justify (in her mind) everything she's done. It's very hard to prove she has bad intentions towards our son even though we strongly feel it and all the evidence points to it. Now, we've decided to just get the hell out of dodge and concentrate on helping our son recover and rebuild his confidence.

OP posts:
Balab · 16/12/2025 11:50

Put the trans stuff aside and concentrate on parenting your own child - who, IMO has made a couple of transgressions:

  1. you told him not to say anything - he went against this direct instruction from you. He needs to obey your instructions.

  2. the trans stuff is irrelevant - you do not hurt the feelings of another person. That’s not to say you agree with the ideology. I think your child needs to understand that this child is a person and therefore he should not say things that he knows will upset that person. He should remove himself from the situation.

You say he’s clever, so these two amendments should be easy for him to understand and carry out.

Grammarnut · 16/12/2025 11:40

Blinky21 · 11/06/2025 17:00

Not sure why you said the child was confused, that's not your judgement to make. Why not just say to your child that the other child wishes to be known as a girl and he should respect that

Because he is confused. No-one is the opposite sex to their sexed body. Poor child, with stupid parents.

Sexnotgendah · 16/12/2025 07:58

Your beliefs are protected- this has not been tested in Ireland as there have been no court cases in Ireland (Enoch Burke’s case has centred on contempt of court) however the Maya Forstater case used EU legislation. You should clarify with the school exactly what the policy is and whether they have done an impact assessment and a risk assessment prior to implementing this policy. You should also ask the school how their policies in this context protect children with religious beliefs and neurodiverse children. Contact the Countess or Genspect they should be able to help you.

Delphinium20 · 16/12/2025 04:58

Well, happy for you you can pull him out. You son will be fine, I'm sure.

Not so sure about the little girls in that school. I am really, really feeling for them in the next few years. What a fucking nightmare. Those parents of that boy must be absolute assholes.

5128gap · 15/12/2025 19:22

I think I'd go down the lines of 'it upsets Alex when you call him a boy. We don't really know why, because we're not Alex. But it's better not to say things that upset people on purpose"
This may stop him going out of his way to call the boy a boy, but there will no doubt be other issues down the line when DS uses 'he' and there's further complaints. Which will be much more difficult to address.
Such a difficult situation OP, with no easy answer. Those poor children. What a mess.

AnSolas · 15/12/2025 18:59

@user1471471849 I would* *want to have a place in a new school sorted before I pulled him from the (private but State funded) system and get the Dep of Edu involved first in finding a space if you are in a high demand area.

AnSolas · 15/12/2025 18:53

RedAndGreenShouldAlwaysBeSeen · 15/12/2025 14:34

Can all that apply if the child is of no faith?

Because the school is essentially requiring belief in gender ideology from all students. It's very similar to forcing all students to believe in a particular religion.

Yes it applies to a child with no faith

The RC bit is because most children in the ET will have RC parents and may be brought up loosely in the RC faith so that a specific discrimination.

The Dont Preach website link is about children who follow no faith.

Article 42 give parents rights to be the decision maker on moral and social values. Section 3.2 on education would oblige the school to show how the State (not the school) has adopted the schools version of GI as being factual but the State will not have done this as the RCC still control the majority of schools and under RC faith law the RC school ethos can not teach that "God put a girl brain in a boy body"

Article 42A gives the child rights to his own belief

Article 44 to attend the school without the schools belief in GI

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/cons/en/html#article42

EDUCATION
ARTICLE 42
1 The State acknowledges that the primary and natural educator of the child is the Family and guarantees to respect the inalienable right and duty of parents to provide, according to their means, for the religious and moral, intellectual, physical and social education of their children.
2 Parents shall be free to provide this education in their homes or in private schools or in schools recognised or established by the State.
3 1° The State shall not oblige parents in violation of their conscience and lawful preference to send their children to schools established by the State, or to any particular type of school designated by the State.
3 2° The State shall, however, as guardian of the common good, require in view of actual conditions that the children receive a certain minimum education, moral, intellectual and social.
4 The State shall provide for free primary education and shall endeavour to supplement and give reasonable aid to private and corporate educational initiative, and, when the public good requires it, provide other educational facilities or institutions with due regard, however, for the rights of parents, especially in the matter of religious and moral formation.
CHILDREN
ARTICLE 42A
1 The State recognises and affirms the natural and imprescriptible rights of all children and shall, as far as practicable, by its laws protect and vindicate those rights.

See the use of the word belief (highlighted by ● )

RELIGION
H5>ARTICLE 44
1 The State acknowledges that the homage of public worship is due to Almighty God. It shall hold His Name in reverence, and shall respect and honour religion.
2 1° Freedom of conscience and the free profession and practice of religion are, subject to public order and morality, guaranteed to every citizen.
2° The State guarantees not to endow any religion.
3° The State shall not impose any disabilities or make any discrimination on the ground of
● religious profession,
● belief or
● status.
4° Legislation providing State aid for schools shall not discriminate between schools under the management of different religious denominations, nor be such as to affect prejudicially the right of any child to attend a school receiving public money without attending religious instruction at that school.
5° Every religious denomination shall have the right to manage its own affairs, own, acquire and administer property, movable and immovable, and maintain institutions for religious or charitable purposes.
6° The property of any religious denomination or any educational institution shall not be diverted save for necessary works of public utility and on payment of compensation.

Irish Statute Book Constitution of Ireland

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/cons/en/html#article42

Instructions · 15/12/2025 18:15

Your poor son and the poor children in that class being forced to pretend like this. What it must do to small children to be penalised for being honest and bullied into perpetuating a lie. What confusion they must feel. How they must wonder whether they can trust adults at all!

user1471471849 · 15/12/2025 18:10

AnSolas · 15/12/2025 14:24

they said it was a human right for the child to call themselves a girl, and was I up to date on the ethos of the school.

The child has a human right to ID as he wants.

Your child has a legal and consitutional and human right not to be forced to follow the other childs belief system.

I assume your child is not Catholic?
If he is the school is engaged in active relegion discrimination against you child as RC teaching has ruled that transgenderism is basicly saying God made a mistake when soul X went into body Y or in your schools Misogyny Belief " girl brain in a boy body " and Catholics cant hold that belief as is true

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2000/act/8/enacted/en/print#sec3

(e) that one has a different religious belief from the other, or that one has a religious belief and the other has not (the “religion ground”),

Technical point your Faith can be Christian not just RC etc or any faith which rejects GI for the RG section to apply.

We are taking our son out of the school after Christmas. It's a massive relief.

Rather than take you child out and both you and he be at a disadvantage for a term or longer can you push back?
You may be stuck trying to get your child into a new school mid year and he looses out on friendships and companionship for the period. And with the child deaths in the news I would expect the school to log the withdrawl with Social Services so you could end up with an open case file.

Rather ask that you child be removed from the classs which will be covering transgenderism as you see it as a belief and moral teaching which you are legally allowed to object to.

This web page (no association) covers some of the case law which has come up (read and replace the word religion with Moral value)
https://teachdontpreach.ie/right-to-not-attend-religious-instruction/

And your legal basis
https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/act/51/section/30/enacted/en/html#sec30

(e) shall not require any student to attend instruction in any subject which is contrary to the conscience of the parent of the student or in the case of a student who has reached the age of 18 years, the student.

Then make it a school supervision problem by instructing your child to not interact with the other child in class or on the play ground and have the school put a system in place to support the decision.

I am sure the school ethos has a support all faiths and none section.

We're lapsed catholics and our kids are no religion, we didn't baptise them. To be honest, this is just the last straw for us. The whole environment is toxic and they haven't been treating our son well so we were veering strongly towards taking him out anyway. He's strong willed, extroverted and doesn't automatically bow to authority- he always wants to know the reasons for things- so he was unlikely to just accept this as fact. I obviously want to protect his sense of curiousity and independent thought so he's outta there.
I feel so sorry for the kid who's being socially transitioned and for all the other children in the school. We were probably the only parents who would say something to the principal. Maybe others will do something when they realise what's coming after Christmas. It feels like being in a dystopian sci-fi novel.

OP posts:
paulhollywoodshairgel · 15/12/2025 16:57

The school should be reporting the parents to social services. There’s no way a 7 year old understands what transitioning means. My little boy used to wear princess dresses… it was a phase. He wanted to be a mermaid as well. I didnt automatically think gosh he must need to transition. I think you’ve explained it well to your son.

IslandsAround · 15/12/2025 16:42

Blinky21 · 11/06/2025 17:00

Not sure why you said the child was confused, that's not your judgement to make. Why not just say to your child that the other child wishes to be known as a girl and he should respect that

No child of 6/7/8 whatever even has a gender identity. Even the captured NHS won’t entertain it.

This child is being abused and let down by their parents and those that should love them.

RedAndGreenShouldAlwaysBeSeen · 15/12/2025 14:34

AnSolas · 15/12/2025 14:24

they said it was a human right for the child to call themselves a girl, and was I up to date on the ethos of the school.

The child has a human right to ID as he wants.

Your child has a legal and consitutional and human right not to be forced to follow the other childs belief system.

I assume your child is not Catholic?
If he is the school is engaged in active relegion discrimination against you child as RC teaching has ruled that transgenderism is basicly saying God made a mistake when soul X went into body Y or in your schools Misogyny Belief " girl brain in a boy body " and Catholics cant hold that belief as is true

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2000/act/8/enacted/en/print#sec3

(e) that one has a different religious belief from the other, or that one has a religious belief and the other has not (the “religion ground”),

Technical point your Faith can be Christian not just RC etc or any faith which rejects GI for the RG section to apply.

We are taking our son out of the school after Christmas. It's a massive relief.

Rather than take you child out and both you and he be at a disadvantage for a term or longer can you push back?
You may be stuck trying to get your child into a new school mid year and he looses out on friendships and companionship for the period. And with the child deaths in the news I would expect the school to log the withdrawl with Social Services so you could end up with an open case file.

Rather ask that you child be removed from the classs which will be covering transgenderism as you see it as a belief and moral teaching which you are legally allowed to object to.

This web page (no association) covers some of the case law which has come up (read and replace the word religion with Moral value)
https://teachdontpreach.ie/right-to-not-attend-religious-instruction/

And your legal basis
https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/act/51/section/30/enacted/en/html#sec30

(e) shall not require any student to attend instruction in any subject which is contrary to the conscience of the parent of the student or in the case of a student who has reached the age of 18 years, the student.

Then make it a school supervision problem by instructing your child to not interact with the other child in class or on the play ground and have the school put a system in place to support the decision.

I am sure the school ethos has a support all faiths and none section.

Can all that apply if the child is of no faith?

Because the school is essentially requiring belief in gender ideology from all students. It's very similar to forcing all students to believe in a particular religion.

AnSolas · 15/12/2025 14:24

they said it was a human right for the child to call themselves a girl, and was I up to date on the ethos of the school.

The child has a human right to ID as he wants.

Your child has a legal and consitutional and human right not to be forced to follow the other childs belief system.

I assume your child is not Catholic?
If he is the school is engaged in active relegion discrimination against you child as RC teaching has ruled that transgenderism is basicly saying God made a mistake when soul X went into body Y or in your schools Misogyny Belief " girl brain in a boy body " and Catholics cant hold that belief as is true

https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/2000/act/8/enacted/en/print#sec3

(e) that one has a different religious belief from the other, or that one has a religious belief and the other has not (the “religion ground”),

Technical point your Faith can be Christian not just RC etc or any faith which rejects GI for the RG section to apply.

We are taking our son out of the school after Christmas. It's a massive relief.

Rather than take you child out and both you and he be at a disadvantage for a term or longer can you push back?
You may be stuck trying to get your child into a new school mid year and he looses out on friendships and companionship for the period. And with the child deaths in the news I would expect the school to log the withdrawl with Social Services so you could end up with an open case file.

Rather ask that you child be removed from the classs which will be covering transgenderism as you see it as a belief and moral teaching which you are legally allowed to object to.

This web page (no association) covers some of the case law which has come up (read and replace the word religion with Moral value)
https://teachdontpreach.ie/right-to-not-attend-religious-instruction/

And your legal basis
https://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1998/act/51/section/30/enacted/en/html#sec30

(e) shall not require any student to attend instruction in any subject which is contrary to the conscience of the parent of the student or in the case of a student who has reached the age of 18 years, the student.

Then make it a school supervision problem by instructing your child to not interact with the other child in class or on the play ground and have the school put a system in place to support the decision.

I am sure the school ethos has a support all faiths and none section.

Religion in School Opt Out | Primary Secondary Education

Campaign for secular Irish education: human rights law, discrimination, primary & secondary school religion class lesson opt out, parents rights & option,

https://teachdontpreach.ie/right-to-not-attend-religious-instruction/

proximalhumerous · 15/12/2025 13:51

IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 15/12/2025 12:26

What an utterly ridiculous response - especially arguing with you: a school governor.

I know you most probably aren't actually a school governor, but going by their own silly rules, it's a human right for you to call yourself one and be treated accordingly... right?

By that logical she may as well call herself the Principal!

MrsOvertonsWindow · 15/12/2025 13:18

Good grief OP.
"Be kind" over "Don't lie", "be scientifically accurate", "have boundaries", safeguarding matters", "do no harm", "don't gaslight children", "be age appropriate", "develop an enquiring mind" and on and on.

This adult ideology is doing so much harm to our children. With the most vulnerable, mentally fragile children being targeted by dubious adults and organisations, pretending that sex change is the cure for their mental and physical discomfort. A complete safeguarding fail.

I make no apology for posting this link again which details the massive psychological harm done to young children when adults pretend that a child can change sex (written by a clinical psychologist).

https://www.transgendertrend.com/childhood-social-transition/

A childhood is not reversible - Transgender Trend

Childhood social transition is seen as 'kind.' A clinical psychologist explains what we set a child up for when we socially transition them.

https://www.transgendertrend.com/childhood-social-transition/

turkeyboots · 15/12/2025 12:47

Call your local catholic school, they generally aren't pushing this agenda, and at least you know what you are getting with the rest of it. The Educate Togethers are looking to replace religion with "be kind" I think.

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