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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions
LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 10/06/2025 22:11

I’m so glad my children are out of education, these people are morons.

BellissimoGecko · 10/06/2025 22:00

There were only 150 people at the event so hardly all teachers…

fucking ridiculous though that they are straight out lying about the law!

CyanHelper · 10/06/2025 21:45

Back in the real world, schools and teachers don't use chromosomes, gonads or genitals to determine pupils sex. They also don't ask the NEU for their opinion. They look on the birth certificate. 😂

MyAmpleSheep · 10/06/2025 21:31

Hoardasurass · 10/06/2025 20:22

Well biological sex was defined in Corbett vs Corbett as chromosomal and gonadal sex so there wrong on all counts

The legal position is that someone's sex is an observable fact based on their chromosomal, gonadal and genital development as they exist at birth (not as modified later by surgery). All three are taken into account. Where there is a genuine doubt as to someone's sex, a court will decide, based on the evidence of what those three things were when the baby was born. There's also a statutory mechanism for an error made on a birth certificate - like where an error of observation was made - to be corrected by means of a marginal note in the register of births.

Michael Foran explains the position, in his latest paper, here:
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5282283

ArabellaScott · 10/06/2025 21:29

How are they going to teach human reproduction?

Theeyeballsinthesky · 10/06/2025 20:50

For fucks sake! Why do people listen to these absolute fuckwits. There is case law eh Corbett v Corbett that defines these terms

it’s like trying to reason with fucking toddlers

GallantKumquat · 10/06/2025 20:44

In one presentation, given by a member of the LGBT network at the Public and Commercial Services Union, which represents civil servants, attendees were told: “There is no legal or even scientific definition of ‘biological sex’.”

This is paradigmatic of TA misuse of language. In a literalistic sense it's correct to say that the term 'biological sex' is not used in biology. That's because the term 'sex' has a technical, precise definition. Outside of biology the term 'biological sex' is used to refer to the word 'sex' as used in biology, i.e. with its technical definition within the broad fields of biology.

So, the claim that there's no legal definition of 'biological sex' rests on assertion that the term 'biological sex' is not itself used in the field of biology, namely that there's no biological 'biological sex'. This is obviously semantic game-playing. It's so silly and transparently dishonest that it's impossible to pin down TA's into making clear that this is their argument.

Hoardasurass · 10/06/2025 20:22

Well biological sex was defined in Corbett vs Corbett as chromosomal and gonadal sex so there wrong on all counts

TheKeatingFive · 10/06/2025 20:20

What f*cking nonsense 🙄

CarefulN0w · 10/06/2025 20:13

And these muppets are teaching children and young people.

Igneococcus · 10/06/2025 20:12

Supposedly no scientific definition either, the fools.

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lnks · 10/06/2025 20:09

I don’t understand how on earth they think they can they get away with such complete lies.

Surely they are leaving themselves wide open to legal action, and they have very helpfully broadcasted the fact that they are lying about the law. Could come in handy if anyone does decided to take legal action against them.

(edited as pressed post too soon)