No legal definition of biological sex, teaching union members told

I don’t use the word muppet unless referring to The Muppet Show.

Still a teacher, agree they’re muppets 😀

There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them. (Orwell, of course)

I'm not a big fan of citing 'common sense', partly because it does actually track IQ, but I think this might be an occasion for it.

99.8% of birth registrations correctly align with gonadal sex.

Of the 0.02%, some will develop an adult female external phenotype which matches their paperwork, and no issue will arise.

Some will develop an adult male external phenotype which doesnt match their paperwork. Whether they choose to correct their paperwork or not, they are protected under the perceptive discrimination provisions of the Act. By the same token, they can be excluded from women-only spaces as an exception to the bar on perceptive discrimination (exemplified in the judgment by reference to transmen, but the same reasoning applies).

Me too. But as I've just commented on another thread, promoting transgenderism over facts, science and reality brings out the muppet in so many people - including teachers.

I left, along with thousands of other qualified and experienced teachers. Your comment would have been upsetting once upon a time.

I knew it'd be the NEU.

No wonder birth rates across the Western world are plummeting!

But how do the surrogacy companies know which people to get the babies from? 🤔

Reading about Corbett vs Corbett. Fascinating case! thanks for mentioning. I'm always awed by the wise women of MN :)

Dsd rate is no higher in trans people than the general population this has been shown by multiple studies.
The TRAs claim that around 1.7% have a dsd by claiming that policistic Overy syndrome is a dsd.
The dsd community have repeatedly asked the TQ+ community to stop using them as a gotcha and to stop conflating trans and dsd as there's no real crossover between the groups regardless of what many trans people claim

There is no evidence of any trans person actually having a DSD

most DSD are actually irrelevant ( triple X for example - common but limited impact on people and doesn’t lead to any sex ambiguity)

I'm amazed the NEU (my union) has actually said women need supporting in the work place. Formerly they have been so trans/most vulnerable that women seemed to be - despite being the majority of union members - definitely second class.

The ongoing deliberate obfuscation between DSDs and gender identity needs to be addressed by journalists.

The ‘sex is complicated’ part is dependent on ignoring 99.9% plus of the population, and it really isn’t beyond comprehension for the remaining 0.018%.

The prevalence of having a trans identity is 0.5%. I expect having a DSD is likely to occur at a higher rate within the trans population, but each occurrence would reflect a trans person with a DSD - two different phenomenon.

Children who experience gender distress or confusion do not have confusion about their sex. Their sex/ sexed body is what they attribute their distress to. When desiring cross sex hormones at puberty, they know which hormones their body will and won’t be increasing producing of.

It astounds me how far removed these activist teacher’s ‘preaching’ is from those they think they are protecting. They seem to grasp at what they think are ‘gotchas’, and regurgitate points that are perpetually repeated on social media, without noticing that, at best, they don’t cohere and, at worst, they conflict.

I was in tesco yesterday using the self service tills, early in the morning, so quiet. Someone started using the till next to me and I knew immediately, without looking, that it was a bloke. I can't tell you how I knew. It wasn't size/height because he was only about 5'5. Stance/movement caught out of the corner of my eye, maybe? But it was exceedingly quick and subconscious.

All this blithering on and insisting that no-one can tell what sex someone is and yet every human that has ever lived grew in a female body. It's the one thing that every single person has in common.

I suspect their argument, because they're so much cleverer than the rest of us, is that sex does exist but we can only know the sex of our own body, we have no way of knowing the sex of anyone else's, only they know that. We might think we know just by looking but we're wrong and probably fascist for thinking that, and the fact that we're able to tell with 100% accuracy if a fully clothed human is male or female without them having to tell us or drop their trousers is just proof of how wrong we are.

When a couple says 'we're pregnant!' we all know which one of them is not in fact pregnant.

You had me at the India Willoughby bit 🤣

https://www.edapt.org.uk/?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20439023035&gclid=CjwKCAjwr5_CBhBlEiwAzfwYuL_zsVWK4qpQr2nvv2xJuRCQeQBc_4-WAaeIwWNPtSQQz-TTDZLx5hoCR3AQAvD_BwE please consider joining Edapt if you've had enough (not if you will want to strike though as they're apolitical).

I was thinking about this on the train yesterday. Looking out of the window at the other commuters. You can identify their sex easily, in less than a second. Occasionally two seconds if they have an androgynous hairstyle or their back to you. I wonder how many primaries still read The Emperor's New Clothes in assembly.

More wilful, deliberate and disingenuous "misunderstanding", I see...

No, you pay lots of cash to a surrogacy organisation and a bit later, a baby turns up. It's just like ordering a new thingimybob from Amazon.

🤣

When a mummy bird and a daddy bird love each other very much, they get certain urges... 😀

Miss? Where do babies come from?

Hmm, well little Johnny it's complicated because while we can identify the sex of all other mammals no one can tell if humans are male or female and India Willoughby thinks despite having given birth twice Princess Anne might actually be male so all we can say is you need two people one who is called a birthing parent and one who isn't and if you leave them alone in a room together 9 months later a baby may or may not arrive and if it does a midwife will throw a die to decide if they will potentially be a birthing parent in the future or not. Is that clear?

It’s another of life’s great mysteries. If only someone could research what is happening so us confused people in a fog of uncertainty could find out how we all managed to get pregnant and have all these dependent humans to look after. It’s a mystery to me. I still haven’t had my DNA checked, so I’m not sure what happened to me.

How do they think all those small people in their care came to be? Storks brought them?

How are they thinking teachers will teach :

Year 4 - Having a baby (pupils can describe the internal and external parts of male and female bodies that are necessary for making a baby)

what an absolute head fuck for teachers not able to say what a male or female is.