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Outspoken TRA 'Legaltweetz' suddenly turns against transactivitism

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NotTerfNorCis · 10/06/2025 19:02

Fascinating stuff. Long-time TRA and transman https://x.com/legaltweetz has made an almost overnight conversion to the gender critical side.

'I honestly feel like I’m leaving a cult. Where saying anything outside of the accepted narrative will get a bunch of anime pfps attacking your character.'

Legaltweetz is now under sustained attack from other TRAs.

If you're on Twitter, go take a look. This person was one of the most vocal TRAs on there until a month ago.

Wondering if it's no coincidence that it's a female person who's got disenchanted with the ideology and its supporters.

Outspoken TRA 'Legaltweetz' suddenly turns against transactivitism
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SidewaysOtter · 12/09/2025 12:30

SionnachRuadh · 12/09/2025 00:32

That's a legitimate position to hold and your right to hold it will be respected.

I'm still trying to work up the nerve to go onto the James Bond subreddit and explain why Austin Powers is crap. I swear, in that space, Mike Myers is a bigger sacred cow than Sean Connery.

How can anyone possibly talk about Austin Powers in the same breath as James Bond? It's like comparing a Cheese String to a crunchy mature cheddar.

Anyway, the comparison to Connery is insignificant, the best Bond is obviously Daniel Craig.

Shedmistress · 12/09/2025 11:04

I wonder if it will be of the 'Julie Bindel promised me a bride' level of utter nonsense this time around.

BezMills · 12/09/2025 07:47

If Legaltweetz got some of that Big Oil MAGA Money then it's only right and proper she should give it back. I'll look after it in my account, my paypal is IWantMy40MagaBucksAndMoscowMule at terfhq dot org

Account734 · 12/09/2025 07:31

GallantKumquat · 11/09/2025 22:18

Well, I was definitely in the 'be kind and welcoming' camp because people do in fact change their minds and because there's no lose in credibility if the person turns out to be faking it. In fact the whole idea is self-refuting. TRAs expect us to believe Legaltweetz was a man (and was always man) simply because she says so. Then suddenly stopped being a man and never was a man because she says so, and finally, actually, no, she was a man and was always a man even when she said she wasn't, because she said so. All the while there being no discernible change of the person in question. I mean is there a better example of trans insanity than that?

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I have no issue with people being in the kind and welcoming category. I have an issue with the people in this category lecturing others who are suspicious of the 180 turn to be kind and welcoming. She was not just a detransitioner, she was (and apparently still is) a full on vitriolic TRA.

Just like it's not ok for the gender ideology side to try force "kindness" aka women's boundaries being removed, it's also not ok for the GC side to force kindness on our own side so that we look like the better side by being welcoming to people who have harmed us. It's also boundary removal for someone else in the name of kindness.

Yes, I think this has been a great example of trans insanity. My view is that she was a nasty woman then, in the middle and now. I don't believe in gender and her sex has never changed but her manipulations and nastiness have always remained the same, she just turn them on her own side for a short period.

After legaltweetz "detransition" I saw so many GCs schooling others in how to be nice and welcoming in quite an unpleasant manner hypocritically enough. We don't ever have to be nice to those who have harmed us. Although I believe kindness to detransitioners who weren't TRAs is important, I wouldn't try to push my view on others.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 12/09/2025 07:21

She’s not getting an easy time on SM. It seems clear to me that she’s mentally very unwell.

Can’t wait to see the dossier anyway, I wonder if she took video or photos of all the secret terf meetings, if she managed to crack all our secret codes, and uncovered our plan for world domination? I’m sure it will be just riveting.

MistyGreenAndBlue · 12/09/2025 00:56

Christinapple · 11/06/2025 12:12

This is subjective. It's always been LGBT until JK Rowling and the gender critical groups propped up to oppose it. Saying LGB feels as if something is missing IMO.

It's been LGB for most of my life. LGBT has never sounded right to me. It's a relatively recent change whether you admit that or not. And LGBTQ - even worse.

SionnachRuadh · 12/09/2025 00:32

TomorrowisThursday · 11/09/2025 23:30

Phew. I don't like marshmallows. I've been too afraid to speak out against Tunnocks teacakes for so long now.

That's a legitimate position to hold and your right to hold it will be respected.

I'm still trying to work up the nerve to go onto the James Bond subreddit and explain why Austin Powers is crap. I swear, in that space, Mike Myers is a bigger sacred cow than Sean Connery.

TomorrowisThursday · 11/09/2025 23:30

Igneococcus · 11/09/2025 20:58

I'm a member of the Cheese&Nuts groupuscule, we splintered off the Cheese&Crackers faction a while ago though nobody can remember what caused the rift.

Phew. I don't like marshmallows. I've been too afraid to speak out against Tunnocks teacakes for so long now.

ExitPursuedByABare · 11/09/2025 23:01

Wish you hadn’t mentioned caramel wafers …….

WimbledonWhites · 11/09/2025 22:53

I think she could put Russian sleeper agents to shame. She was undercover for a whole two months! Amazing.

Pleasantsort · 11/09/2025 22:47

SidewaysOtter · 11/09/2025 22:25

OUT WITH YOU.

Absolutely! Now that is just weird. 🤣

Pleasantsort · 11/09/2025 22:46

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 11/06/2025 12:49

Lovey, I was alive in the 80’s and 90’s. I KNOW this ain’t true

Haha Same - alive in the 70's too! LGB only . Chris what age are you ?

SidewaysOtter · 11/09/2025 22:25

GoldenFireplace · 11/09/2025 19:33

Tunnocks teacakes are awful.

OUT WITH YOU.

SidewaysOtter · 11/09/2025 22:25

I'm reminded of Mary Warren running back to Abigail and the other accusers in The Crucible when the going got too tough. The TRAs are known for turning on detransitioners.

GallantKumquat · 11/09/2025 22:18

Account734 · 11/09/2025 20:57

That's entirely expected. She seems to have serious issues. At least those on the GC side who were giving everyone who didn't trust her motives a big old "be kind and welcoming" lecture will hopefully think about it next time before they tell people to disregard their instincts. I found the lectures completely repellent especially since we have been told for the last decade to "be kind and let men steal or rights and private spaces".

What she did expose was how badly the TRAs react to detransitioners so frankly, I take this as a win.

Well, I was definitely in the 'be kind and welcoming' camp because people do in fact change their minds and because there's no lose in credibility if the person turns out to be faking it. In fact the whole idea is self-refuting. TRAs expect us to believe Legaltweetz was a man (and was always man) simply because she says so. Then suddenly stopped being a man and never was a man because she says so, and finally, actually, no, she was a man and was always a man even when she said she wasn't, because she said so. All the while there being no discernible change of the person in question. I mean is there a better example of trans insanity than that?

RedToothBrush · 11/09/2025 21:59

Exhibit B.

RedToothBrush · 08/09/2025 10:37
My experience with online trolls / gaming is they are obsessive, they have about a zillion online identities, they are persistent, they see it as winning, they read Sun Tzu and therefore believe they are at war and any method is fair game as it's all about winning.

yourhairiswinterfire · 11/09/2025 21:56

If Pissed Off Lawyer has found out who is supposed to be funding us to say crazy things like 'males aren't female' and 'women have human rights too', could they let us know, 'cause I haven't received a penny for my years of terfing so I should be due a lot of backpay 😤.

Imbrocator · 11/09/2025 21:54

What was the goal here though? To try to gain sympathy from well known GC figures and trick them into saying something in private that would reflect badly on them? That’s the best I could come up with.

My first thought when she said she was detransitioning was that it was a fake, and then I saw the outpouring of kindness and support from the GC community towards her and felt mean spirited to ever have thought it.

What a pointless, sad stunt. It seems like the only result was to showcase how vile TRAs are to detransitioners and make GC people who were open handed think twice about being as generous next time.

NotTerfNorCis · 11/09/2025 21:52

Just seen her big announcement. So tedious.

I actually suspect the detransition might have been genuine, but she got so much flack she couldn't carry on with it.

Otherwise... what's the point? Her TRA mates are never going to forgive her.

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Igneococcus · 11/09/2025 21:42

CassOle · 11/09/2025 21:22

I'm in the Tunnocks Chocolate Caramel Wafer Division.

It is dawning on me just how divided the sex realist and gender critical troops are on the most crucial issue of the day (favourite snacks). How we ever agree on anything, I will never know!

I think it comes down to the difference between opinions (paprika crisps are the best, closely followed by Dill crisps) which there can be disagreement over, and facts, like sex is binary and immutable, which is just simply true. So we can have different opinions but we agree on facts.

CassOle · 11/09/2025 21:22

Igneococcus · 11/09/2025 20:58

I'm a member of the Cheese&Nuts groupuscule, we splintered off the Cheese&Crackers faction a while ago though nobody can remember what caused the rift.

I'm in the Tunnocks Chocolate Caramel Wafer Division.

It is dawning on me just how divided the sex realist and gender critical troops are on the most crucial issue of the day (favourite snacks). How we ever agree on anything, I will never know!

Helleofabore · 11/09/2025 21:02

It is not quite the surprise that she thought it would be.

brip · 11/09/2025 20:59

I thought it was fake from the start. Big own goal though surely, since her trans mates all piled on to throw insults and GC people piled on to offer compassion and support

Igneococcus · 11/09/2025 20:58

BorneBackCeaselesslyIntoThePas · 11/09/2025 20:39

Not all of us I'm a member of the Tunnocks snowball radical wing

I'm a member of the Cheese&Nuts groupuscule, we splintered off the Cheese&Crackers faction a while ago though nobody can remember what caused the rift.

Account734 · 11/09/2025 20:57

That's entirely expected. She seems to have serious issues. At least those on the GC side who were giving everyone who didn't trust her motives a big old "be kind and welcoming" lecture will hopefully think about it next time before they tell people to disregard their instincts. I found the lectures completely repellent especially since we have been told for the last decade to "be kind and let men steal or rights and private spaces".

What she did expose was how badly the TRAs react to detransitioners so frankly, I take this as a win.