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Munroe Bergdorf in the Observer

64 replies

LittleBitofBread · 08/06/2025 19:47

I was intending to read this article, in the spirit of keeping an open and non-judgemental mind, but couldn’t get past the line ‘On 16 April the UK Supreme Court ruled that the legal definition of “sex” is based on biological sex assigned at birth’.

Fuck’s sake. Can they genuinely not help themselves, or are they deliberately trolling people?

https://observer.co.uk/news/profile/article/munroe-bergdorf-meets-the-momentObserver

Munroe Bergdorf meets the moment | The Observer

Munroe Bergdorf meets the moment | The Observer

Outspoken and highly influential, the model, author and activist is a force for our times

https://observer.co.uk/news/profile/article/munroe-bergdorf-meets-the-moment

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ArtificialFlower · 08/06/2025 20:28

BungeeCord · 08/06/2025 20:25

Yes, you can take DNA from the foetus. It is in the mother's blood. The test is called NIPT.

Even easier, they look for a willy on the scans!

SinnerBoy · 08/06/2025 20:26

Them appears to have missed the most important one:

Vicious, bullying gobshite. I wonder if them will request a correction?

BungeeCord · 08/06/2025 20:25

user1471453601 · 08/06/2025 20:21

@LittleBitofBread which part of the observers description of the law lords decision do you disagree with?

sex cannot be assigned before birth can it? Can we assign any characteristics to a foetus? Sex can be assumed prior to birth of course. But do we take DNA from a foetus? If so, I didn't know that.

and is DNA the only characteristic (or even the most important charactetistc) we allow a person.

there you go, I've dared to poke the bear.

Yes, you can take DNA from the foetus. It is in the mother's blood. The test is called NIPT.

user1471453601 · 08/06/2025 20:21

@LittleBitofBread which part of the observers description of the law lords decision do you disagree with?

sex cannot be assigned before birth can it? Can we assign any characteristics to a foetus? Sex can be assumed prior to birth of course. But do we take DNA from a foetus? If so, I didn't know that.

and is DNA the only characteristic (or even the most important charactetistc) we allow a person.

there you go, I've dared to poke the bear.

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 08/06/2025 20:12

Outspoken and highly influential, the model, author and activist is a force for our times

Never heard of them - have I missed anything?

LarkAscendings · 08/06/2025 20:12

There’s a lot of mentions in the article of racism but there does seem to be irony there when you consider it’s coming from someone identifying as something they’re biologically not.

NameChangedOfc · 08/06/2025 20:11

"Transwoman", model, activist, author...
Such a redundancy of fakeness for only one lifetime!

BernardBlacksMolluscs · 08/06/2025 20:10

Cor blimey, that was a lot of words to say very little. What a poor article which conveyed zero insights.

think I’ll be giving his book and film a miss

LarkAscendings · 08/06/2025 20:06

Also on this week’s episode of Fearne Cotton’s podcast.

BellissimoGecko · 08/06/2025 20:05

Christ. How UNLUCKY to be sacked from three jobs because of nasty tweets/bad behaviour.

Clearly everyone is out to get Monroe 🙄🙄🙄

clearly it’s not Monroe’s fault. What an arse-licky article.

Fitzcarraldo353 · 08/06/2025 20:03

Hoping this doesn't signal a shift in the Observer's editorial line on women's rights now they have a new owner.

EdithStourton · 08/06/2025 19:58

biological sex assigned at birth
And there was me thinking it was determined at conception.
What an idiot I am! Silly me!

Myalternate · 08/06/2025 19:54

From the crown of his head to his little toe, MB is totally fake.