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Call for women to support trans rights

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LeftieRightsHoarder · 08/06/2025 12:26

I had an email this morning asking me to sign a petition about violence against women, and support for transpeople.

It included genuine stats about the high rate of violence against women. But it insisted that ‘cis’ men were to blame (disproved by Ministry of Justice stats that show transwomen are more likely than other men to be in prison for sexual offences), and that transpeople were the biggest victims.

It included all the usual obfuscation, eg high murder rate (yes, among South American trans-identifying male prostitutes, tragic but there’s nothing we can do from here) and high suicide rate if not enabled to transition (disproved by research). Also the usual lies, eg that trans people are denied healthcare, housing, and employment (I don’t know if this happens in other countries, but would be illegal in the UK).

It of course blamed feminists for allowing media and authorities to ‘demonise’ trans people.

Sad to see the real scandal of violence against women being used to try to guilt-trip us against defending our single-sex rights.

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ItisntOver · 08/06/2025 14:49

LeftieRightsHoarder · 08/06/2025 14:07

It was from a group called ‘Not in Our Name: women in support of the trans+ community’. They identify themselves as ‘cisgender women’. Unfortunately I can’t send a link as you can’t click from the email to their webpage without automatically signing the petition.

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I wondered how they had obtained your contact details unless it were via a group or mailing lists.

It sounds a little as if it’s an an abuse of GDPR if it’s professional. Or one of those things if it’s an informal WhatsApp etc.

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LeftieRightsHoarder · 08/06/2025 14:07

ItisntOver · 08/06/2025 13:08

Is it from a union, professional organisation or a social group?

It was from a group called ‘Not in Our Name: women in support of the trans+ community’. They identify themselves as ‘cisgender women’. Unfortunately I can’t send a link as you can’t click from the email to their webpage without automatically signing the petition.

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LeftieRightsHoarder · 08/06/2025 13:51

Thanks for the compliment, Joanna, which I pass on to those who deserve it! No, luckily this was from one of the mailing lists I’m on, Change.org. I haven’t yet had anything from a source that could cause trouble for me, and I admire those who stand up to it. Actually I’ve had a few irritating petitions like this from Change.org, though also some sensible ones so I haven’t unsubscribed.

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IfYouPutASausageInItItsNotAViennetta · 08/06/2025 13:47

Whatever the opinions or worrhiness of the causes, they're conflating two issues in one petition - unless they're assuming that the only 'women' who matter are the male ones and they haven't even given a moment's thought to the actual female women.

They've clearly designed it that way deliberately, though, to catch you out. They're going from a very narrow paradigm - one that suits their specific agenda - and trying to get you to either agree wholeheartedly or otherwise expose yourself as a 'bigot' (as they would no-doubt see it).

DragonRunor · 08/06/2025 13:38

Yes, I’d like to know who it’s from too. Sounds like they need lots of emails pointing out the errors in their analysis

ItisntOver · 08/06/2025 13:08

Is it from a union, professional organisation or a social group?

WarriorN · 08/06/2025 13:07

The classic wolf herding the sheep strategy they’ve been using for decades. Just getting a bit more desperate now

NPET · 08/06/2025 13:04

Why can't they understand that I - and I'm sure 95% of women - are not against transpeople having the same rights as us, PROVIDED those rights don't restrict OUR rights as women?

Bluebootsgreenboots · 08/06/2025 12:47

Who was the email from @LeftieRightsHoarder ?

CowboyJoanna · 08/06/2025 12:41

"Trans rights" already exist. Men in dresses can still get access to food, the same healthcare as anyone else, jobs, they can vote.
But what they really mean by that petition is giving men the rights to legally mingle with women in women-only spaces and coerce lesbians into having sex with them. You're a very strong person for saying no and i hope everyone at your workplace wakes up and sees the truth

Dishdelish · 08/06/2025 12:39

They do think they are denied healthcare because people are not blindly going along with their transing demands for young children.

I have two autistic children/young adults and in the “high” functioning autistic children being trans was absolutely rampant and for them they feel people saying no to any of these “requirements to make trans lives better” is abusive towards them.

You hear the same cognitive distortions over and again from them based on rigidity and lack of theory of mind to fully engage with other people’s perspective and then bam loads of them have grown out of it by 16/17/18 like it never happened. I just nod and eye roll along with it with their friends like I did with their older sibling’s friends. It is all so serious and morally superior and necessary with them, the moral injustice of our era, until then one day out of nowhere it is not and they quietly go back to real life. The killer is when they grow out of it they don’t even acknowledge the urgency and adamancy of their previous perspective was flawed. They learn nothing from it.

I am so relieved the grown ups with the ability to say no are back in the room finally.

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