Call for women to support trans rights

The fact that she has tragically lost her child does not make her right about this, and fighting to undermine women's sex based rights will not bring her dead child back.

Perhaps if the medical profession stopped lying to vulnerable people and pretending that medical treatment which would enable them to change sex exists, those vulnerable people would be less likely to kill themselves because they had to wait too long for that treatment.

Trans identifying men already have rights. They have the exact same rights as MEN, which they are.

The right to impose your creepy presence on vulnerable women isn’t one of them though, sorry lads!

This is presumably the same petition that we took the piss out of discussed here

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5345133-do-they-think-were-idiots?reply=144663735

Yes, all of those gay men, and the men who identify themselves as 'progressives' or right on Socilalists - but who clearly have never really understood or had any empathy with the position of female people.

I've been truly surprised by the number of older, committed Leftist men who have totally negelected to consider that female people have integrity and wholeness in their sex. They have been as susceptible as anyone else to group think predicated on tribalism.

Also, because on its own it has no legitimacy because it is not founded in reality. It has to live off the goodwill afforded to established groups.

Obviously, though, the very concept of 'a trans person' ( as a distinct category of human being) which is supposed to mean you are actually the opposite sex has fundamental and reality based flaws. Personally I now only ever use the phrase "person who has adopted a trans identity", rather than saying a '" trans person'".

Everything must be questioned - not taken as an article of faith.

I’d agree for ages Trans rights have been shoehorned in with other rights. Always centred as being most marginalised, most vulnerable whether LGB, healthcare, children’s rights etc.

I think it’s just another way of trying to tie trans together with another cause that they can suck the goodwill / funding out of.

When will people understand that transwomen are not women. They are an altogether different group of people, namely men.
They should never be allowed to be lumped together with actual women as one big group .

There are very few campaigns for men to support trans rights. Where the petition for cis men to accept trans men? Where’s the long list of men saying they accept trans people into their toilets? Oh yes, they don’t care at all about this issue, and trans people don’t need men to improve their attitude and behaviour. It would ruin their point if suddenly all men became metrosexual super gender accepting hippies and there was no longer any reason to be afraid of men’s toilets or changing rooms.
Where are the interviews with flabbergasted men telling everyone they don’t care who goes in men’s spaces, they accept all types of men? Why is it just women under the spotlight? I find it disturbing that normal men’s voices are so absent from this discussion.

It's funny I occasionally pop on to Reddit/transgender. Obviously it's very American and not representative of all trans people, but the actual visceral hatred and contempt for women among the transwomen (eg male) posters comes across very quickly - it's quite something. In that echo chamber it's like they don't even try to hold back their misogyny. Basically, a woman is identified as "transphobic" and they let loose. It couldn't be more obvious that there is no understanding of what it is like to be, feel like or live as a woman. They don't empathise with women at all. So much for sisterhood!

It's just an extension of the same old patriarchy. One again women must serve men and put them first, that being basically the reason we exist... and if women refuse or have their own perspective, then they are witches who should die.

So no lol, I'll never sign anything like that as I've been fully peaked.

That's the group that headline with 'Nor in Our Name ' but had used 'Not in Your Name' in the neodymium of the text.

Gish galloping bullshit is tedious to rebut.

Women don't seem to matter unless someone wants your signature

I also had this email this morning. Didn't it say something about false feminism?
And the usual message re cis etc. I've unsubscribed from change as I get so many from other sources too.
A few that had signed left messages in the usual vein.

Very sad story regarding about he child that died, poor child and poor family

Very very sad to hear about her son
But surely his suicide shouldve been a wakeup call that...transgenderism is very dangerous for young peoples mental health?

Thats why i dont believe in the petition, because we dont want other vulnerable gay lesbian and autistic young people to be brainwashed into thinking theyre born in the wrong body because they dont fit the mould

Why does it always only go one way?

Why are women expected to show support for transwomen but transwomen aren't expected to show support to women by respecting their single-sex spaces, services, sports and other measures put in place for women - things that men either already have equivalent provision for or don't actually need?

There's only one reply to this:

They identify themselves as ‘cisgender women’.

Cisgender …???

WOMEN…….. 😩

WTAF

Shades of anti-suffragists campaigning against women having the vote 🙄

He also assumed that you believe in gender over sex and support his fantasy beliefs and politics.

There is no space to say 'actually I disagree'. This is why it is inappropriate to be sharing political things like this at work with colleagues.

I also received this email earlier today. I’ve signed petitions in the past mainly to do with disability issues but the word “cis” gives me the rage so I’ve unsubscribed.

The group was founded by Caroline Litman, author and mother of trans woman Alice Litman, who sadly took her own life in May 2022, aged just 20. There was a long waiting list to be seen at NHS gender clinics so Litman's parents contacted Michael Webberley, a co-founder of Gender GP who then met Litman in September 2019. GenderGP later prescribed wrong sex hormones to Litman in April 2020.

You can understand why the mother would double down on this. Change.org sends you petitions it thinks may interest you, IME they dont, I unsubscribed.

A trans colleague sent me this at work. I've completely ignored it. He told me it was for cis women to show support for transwomen. Part of me wanted to say "did you assume my gender?" But frankly I can't even be arsed with that