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Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines

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ItsCoolForCats · 07/06/2025 09:59

Simone Biles has come out in defence of males in women's sports, and has attacked Riley Gaines for fighting against it. She said on Twitter:

"@RileyGaines
You’re truly sick, all of this campaigning because you lost a race. Straight up sore loser. You should be uplifting the trans community and perhaps finding a way to make sports inclusive OR creating a new avenue where trans feel safe in sports. Maybe a transgender category IN ALL sports!! But instead… You bully them… One things for sure is no one in sports is safe with you around!!!!!"

So, so disappointing. Both my daughters do gymnastics and are huge SB fans, so it is awful for her to show such contempt towards RG, who is fighting for a level playing field for women and girls in sport. And to suggest a separate category as if nobody has ever thought of that and tried it 🤦🏻‍♀️

https://x.com/Riley_Gaines_

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TheKeatingFive · 14/06/2025 12:22

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 12:21

I prefer to term it ‘not necessarily agreeing with everything a person says or does just because they are a woman and/or a woman’s rights campaigner’.

You can prefer what you want. But prioritising boys over girls in girls sports tells a clear story.

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 12:21

TheKeatingFive · 14/06/2025 12:04

Of course it is. Internalised misogyny is rife unfortunately.

I prefer to term it ‘not necessarily agreeing with everything a person says or does just because they are a woman and/or a woman’s rights campaigner’.

SionnachRuadh · 14/06/2025 12:07

There used to be a TV show called Parker Lewis Can't Lose.

Perhaps this very long thread should be called Riley Gaines Can't Win.

TheKeatingFive · 14/06/2025 12:04

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 11:56

Is that possible since I am one?

Of course it is. Internalised misogyny is rife unfortunately.

Shortshriftandlethal · 14/06/2025 12:03

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 11:56

Is that possible since I am one?

I think it is certainly possible for female people to advocate for a reduction in established female rights and protections, yes......and that is what many who claim to be feminists have been doing. Something to do with " fighting the patriarchy" which makes absolutely no sense at all if it prioritises the dignity and integrity of male people over that of female people.

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 12:00

TheKeatingFive · 14/06/2025 09:38

That's exactly why I was so (unpleasantly) surprised to see her pull this shit on Riley

We can agree on that.

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 12:00

RomanCavalryChoir · 14/06/2025 10:15

AI, draw Simone Biles but make it not look like Simone Biles.

That image looks not looks not like SB but a little girl in a red leotard. It is only due to context that we know who it is attempting to portray.

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 11:56

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 14/06/2025 09:54

If Riley's activism regarding women's sports is "anti trans" then anyone taking the opposite of point of view is "anti women".

Are you "anti women"?

Is that possible since I am one?

RomanCavalryChoir · 14/06/2025 10:15

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 14/06/2025 09:38

Which makes it all the more disappointing that she decided to body shame another woman, who has essentially the same opinion as her about men in women's sports (but isn't afraid to say so) simply for having the wrong political beliefs.

In any case, what was the creator of that AI image supposed to do? Say, "draw a picture of Simone Biles pulling the ladder away from some little girls but make Simone Biles 5ft3 so she is taller than the little girls"?

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AI, draw Simone Biles but make it not look like Simone Biles.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 14/06/2025 09:54

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 04:59

The topic is Riley Gaines and Simone Biles. Not other people. The point I was making is that RG’s whole identity is anti-trans activism/ultra-Conservative pundit. Of course there are people on all sides of the spectrum that operate similarly.

If Riley's activism regarding women's sports is "anti trans" then anyone taking the opposite of point of view is "anti women".

Are you "anti women"?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/06/2025 09:50

“Ultra-conservative” oh my days Grin

FrippEnos · 14/06/2025 09:44

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 04:59

The topic is Riley Gaines and Simone Biles. Not other people. The point I was making is that RG’s whole identity is anti-trans activism/ultra-Conservative pundit. Of course there are people on all sides of the spectrum that operate similarly.

RG is pro women's rights in sports, not anti-trans.
and can yo define "ultra-conservative"?
How is it different from "conservative"?

ItsCoolForCats · 14/06/2025 09:44

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/06/2025 09:01

Hilariously a huge advert popped up when I clicked the link “how do we protect the truth?” Well I don’t know Guardian, but not lying or leaving out key information would be a good start.

The only good thing I noticed about the article was that it had a link to an excellent article by Susanna Rustin.

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TheKeatingFive · 14/06/2025 09:38

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 09:34

Perhaps you’ve missed the taunts she regularly receives then from certain sectors due to her height.

That's exactly why I was so (unpleasantly) surprised to see her pull this shit on Riley

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 14/06/2025 09:38

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 09:34

Perhaps you’ve missed the taunts she regularly receives then from certain sectors due to her height.

Which makes it all the more disappointing that she decided to body shame another woman, who has essentially the same opinion as her about men in women's sports (but isn't afraid to say so) simply for having the wrong political beliefs.

In any case, what was the creator of that AI image supposed to do? Say, "draw a picture of Simone Biles pulling the ladder away from some little girls but make Simone Biles 5ft3 so she is taller than the little girls"?

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 09:34

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 14/06/2025 08:29

Don't be so silly.

Simone Biles doesn't have a child's physique, because she is very muscular. She is the height of a child, however.

She is 30cm taller than my DS, who is 4.

Perhaps you’ve missed the taunts she regularly receives then from certain sectors due to her height.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/06/2025 09:01

ItsCoolForCats · 13/06/2025 20:27

The usual biased one-sided nonsense from the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2025/jun/13/simone-biles-riley-gaines-apology-reaction

Simone Biles, the true hero in this story has magnanimously apologised (with a bit of help from her PR team because her tweets went down like a cup of cold sick), whilst anti-trans right-winger RG is still going on Fox News.

The article conveniently omits to mention that SB's personal remarks were comparing RG to a man and that she showed a remarkable level of ignorance because third categories have already been tried. Is it too much to hope for the Guardian to have a tiny bit of balance?

Hilariously a huge advert popped up when I clicked the link “how do we protect the truth?” Well I don’t know Guardian, but not lying or leaving out key information would be a good start.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 14/06/2025 08:29

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 05:20

The other problem with the image I posted earlier in the thread is it depicts children, so specifically, the gymnast in the red leotard on the top of podium has a child’s physique - not a woman’s. No doubt this was deliberate.

Don't be so silly.

Simone Biles doesn't have a child's physique, because she is very muscular. She is the height of a child, however.

She is 30cm taller than my DS, who is 4.

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 05:21

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2025 15:07

Exactly. I’m concerned that @JessaWoo doesn't really understand what “engagement farming” is.

Um …

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 05:20

TooSquaretobehip · 13/06/2025 16:25

And I am actually around Biles' height, I'd have to check what her actual height is, but I'm 148cm (don't know what that is in feet/inches) and I think we're actuallty the same height, so I get her insecurity on a personal experience level. But I've never bullied or insulted tall girls to make myself feel better.

The other problem with the image I posted earlier in the thread is it depicts children, so specifically, the gymnast in the red leotard on the top of podium has a child’s physique - not a woman’s. No doubt this was deliberate.

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 05:14

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/06/2025 16:14

Apparently she retweeted it. The horror.

And? Do you think that somehow makes it different?

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 05:12

TooSquaretobehip · 13/06/2025 16:13

That is not her twitter account....

Gaines reposted this to her account.

JessaWoo · 14/06/2025 04:59

TooSquaretobehip · 13/06/2025 15:33

And transactivists don't make money when they go on non-right news outlets? If you follow any social media of some of the well-known transactivists, you will see that literally the brand of being trans is all they have, all they live for. At thi point it is beyond a social contagion, it's a manic obsession where they have no reason to live except from being seen as being trans. Go on social media. They have in their name 'transmoma', 'translicious', 'transpride', 'transforever', etc. Everything despite the pompoms and cheerleading or lyrics to sweet transoline in their bio. It's an intense over-identified mania and love and fixation. An infatuation. It's akin to Scientology where any dissent will cause the 'suppressor' to be thrown out, and there reason for living or being if it's not for the trans c*lt. It's like Jonestown imo, they even say "Death before detransition". If those cult-like words don't make your blood run cold, I don't know what to say.

And it's all they make their money from. Several of them are unemployed. Being trans is their entire identity, their entire reason for being alive. They don't discuss sport, the desecration of bee colonies, the war (Ukraine or Gaza), their favourite tv show. Or even mention their families at all. They have zero point to being alive apart from being trans as a currency.

Yet you say absolutely nothing about that.

You don't realise; every comment you make so far can be argued to be duplicitous and hypocritical, and applies equally - at bare minimum - to your side.

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The topic is Riley Gaines and Simone Biles. Not other people. The point I was making is that RG’s whole identity is anti-trans activism/ultra-Conservative pundit. Of course there are people on all sides of the spectrum that operate similarly.

GetDressedYouMerryGentlemen · 13/06/2025 21:59

TeiTetua · 13/06/2025 21:51

It's interesting that USA Gymnastics has had a policy accepting anyone into the women's category who claims that they're female. The women's gymnastics routines are different from the men's, and among women, smaller competitors tend to do best (like Simone Biles). So how someone with a male physique and size would get along is a good question.

Quick web search, and these guys may not be Simone Biles, but they're not totally making fools of themselves:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gymnastics/comments/9fmddh/men_doing_womens_gymnastics/

Not to say men belong in women's competition, but maybe the men's events could be expanded.

Firstly I noticed the men aren't in sequined leotards and lippy yet we are often told it vital that female gymnasts are. Secondly where are the videos of women doing men's gymnastics? Why doesn't the supreme athlete that is Simone Biles have a crack at the pommel horse or the rings?

TeiTetua · 13/06/2025 21:51

It's interesting that USA Gymnastics has had a policy accepting anyone into the women's category who claims that they're female. The women's gymnastics routines are different from the men's, and among women, smaller competitors tend to do best (like Simone Biles). So how someone with a male physique and size would get along is a good question.

Quick web search, and these guys may not be Simone Biles, but they're not totally making fools of themselves:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Gymnastics/comments/9fmddh/men_doing_womens_gymnastics/

Not to say men belong in women's competition, but maybe the men's events could be expanded.