Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines

Something else about this that I've been thinking about... should Gaines have drawn attention to a particular teen athlete? Otoh I think this boy knows perfectly well they are not a girl & is causing danger & humiliation w this ridiculous masquerade.

Otoh trans teens do tend to have poor mental health, in large part due to their supposed TRA champions. Drawing attention to the boy has left him open to trolling. There was a v unpleasant incident where a transgirl posted about their mental health & then jumped off a bridge, & many comments celebrated this.

Is it justified for a GC to draw attention to a teen in that way? Is it emotional blackmail to say it could cause harm? I don't have an answer myself, I'm just thinking about it..

This is the only clip I could find of Biles trying to emulate Fred Graham

https://youtube.com/shorts/0XoNQVR5QQs?si=eYhYIxRNoT9PTpcN

It's at the end of the short. She seemed a good sport and I think, with practice, she'd do much better. Still left for dust though.

An archive link for the above article

https://archive.ph/vBOBv

Good piece by Oliver Brown in todays Telegraph on Ms Biles

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/swimming/2025/06/21/simone-biles-trans-activist-reputation-riley-gaines-women/

I know I know, it's because they are far-right transphobes and think only females should have babies.

Congrats to both parents (and offspring), lovely for them all.

Congrats to Riley and her husband! I hope she has a healthy and safe pregnancy 🎉

Pride isn't really a movement about sexuality as such, and I don't think it has been for a long time. It's more like a politically partisan movement where you are expected to share quite a lot of political ideas.

It's also in the main a kind of public sex festival.

Many gay and lesbian people no longer feel related to it. And plenty never really did, there are lots of gay men and lesbian women who are actually pretty conservative. Pride has zero time for those people.

In my town, and this is not that uncommon, one of the biggest political things the Pride group have pushed for in recent years is opposing books they don't like in the public library.

That's before you get to people who object to the corporatism, people who just want shops and businesses to sell stuff without political posturing, or people who just feel the time and money spent on it is far far out of proportion to other causes.

I wonder how they decided if it would be RG or her husband who carried and birthed the baby?

Oh no wait I think I know this one.

The issue of male encroachment and colonisation of female spaces cuts across many areas. It is not confined to sports.

The whole premise of gender ideology is to demolish boundaries and suggest that people can be be whatever they want. That truth is not fixed and can be manipulated through language. That sex is not real. It will always be the most privileged and powerful who take advantage of this to shape reality in a way that suits them. It is not female people that are clamouring to get into male spaces and sports...it is male people who are most insistent on encroaching on female space and utilising it to fulfil their desires.

Riley has just announced she is 26 weeks pregnant. https://www.foxnews.com/sports/riley-gaines-riley-gaines-louis-barker-announce-pregnancy-god-is-good?intcmp=tw_fnc&taid=684e337b86eaf50001e090ba&utm_campaign=trueanthem&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Loving Sharon Davies’ response!

“Shoutout to the people & companies who knew the concept of "pride" was the biggest marketing ploy of all time from its inception.”

Blimey.

So Riley Gaines has another ‘sin’ in that she doesn’t support Pride and has repeated something that many LGB people have been also saying. I guess she is in the company of Julie Bindel with this new accusation. Just another woman who is also campaigning for the protection of women’s rights….

You couldn’t make this up.

None of us are into the vilification of others. And 17 years old is hardly a minor.

RG doesn’t keep it to sports.

Did we say she does? She campaigns against agendas that harms women and girls.

How is it incorrect? Explain? In what way?

What's your point?

Many gay people and lesbians also disagree with what Pride has become.

I can't think of any other tiny, defenceless, oppressed, marginalised minorities with no political power which have the world's biggest corporations change the colour of their logos for a full month every year to express support for them.

Let's be clear, the LGBTQ+ lobby is astonishingly powerful, which is why the entire establishment is awash with rainbows every June, and also why the female half of the population have been repeatedly thrown under a bus to accommodate the whims of male people who claim to be women. An actual oppressed minority struggles to even obtain equal rights; they certainly don't manage to trample all over the rights of other, majority groups.

Pride, as a political and symbolic movement has become synonymous with advocating for the inclusion of men and boys in women’s and girls’ sports. It’s not all it does, but it does it. Therefore, RG has every right to express her relief that this movement is losing its grip on corporate money and influence. Sports and the athletes depend on sponsorship from these companies to survive. One of the reasons many sportswomen have been silenced on this issue and forced to smile along while men and boys take their medals and prize money, is that they have risked losing future sponsorship for them or their federations. Pride movements have been major players in this. So anyone who supports keeping women’s sports for women only but also supports Pride, should be appealing to the movement to stop undermining the female category with ‘inclusion’ (of men and boys) rhetoric. Or, they should accept that for now - ‘Pride’ means women and girls lose their fair and safe sporting arenas.

Very disappointed in SB, she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer is she? She's now backtracked.

I don't get the point here. You think that tweet is very objectionable? Why?

If you don't want men in women's spaces or sports, then the pride movement has not been on your side.

Your summary here is so incorrect it’s amusing. I appreciate your time though.

No, I’m not anti-trans. For clarity, I do not want men in female sports or spaces. However, I’m not into vilification of others, particularly minors.

RG doesn’t keep it to sports.

https://x.com/riley_gaines_/status/1928177655460806863?s=61&t=3wYru9P_J0h74BXKFXAfmw

This is where the term anti-trans gets overplayed. Because it is used as a moralist judgement to silence people. It is usually a mischaracterisation though. And if people are agreeing with even some of the points that the person they are name calling anti-trans, then I am not sure how that label doesn’t apply to them.

We have seen this regularly enough to call it common. I would generally assume it is done to show a wish to be seen as the opposite. Yet this is dishonest if there someone then says, I agree with aspects of the person’s argument.

I now consider that quite often those accusations are akin to those we heard in the court cases. The activists saying women can have any thought they want. But there is no way to articulate that they want single sex provisions to be single sex without being transphobic. Only here it is ‘anti-trans’.

Because of the way the term has been used by some people, the logic really is that ‘anti-trans’ = ‘anti-women and girls’. So many activists use the term, obviously as an alternative to transphobic since that word has lost meaning too, that it comes across as lazy mischaracterisation most often.

There are anti-trans people out there, but feminists defending female sport and other single sex provisions doesn’t make them anti-trans. It does make them pro-woman and girls though.

My confusion on this thread continues to multiply.

So Riley is 'anti-trans'. But @JessaWoo said upthread she agrees with her on men in women's sport, so does that not make @JessaWoo anti-trans also?

Yes, it does. It's clear you're anti-feminists. Or at least anti the 'wrong' type of feminist ie those on the political right.

If not, please explain what is 'anti-trans' about the female sex class having fair and safe sports? Explain your 'anti-trans' comment then? What's that about?

Yes. At every step of the way in history, womens rights were achieved by a tiny minority of women against the overwhelming majority of handmaidens. It was always ever thus. Not just the right to vote, but the overwhelming majority of women didn't believe women should be able to drink in public bars, and should stay in the lounges and saloons. The vast amount of women felt it was 'vulgar' to drink in a public bar. Now women drink in public bars and if you told women today that their ancestors thought they shouldn't, they'd find it strange. Same with no fault divorce and having our own bank accounts. The overwhelming majority of women were against both, oddly enough.

Unfortunately the majority of women are handmaidens that stymy the efforts of feminists to progress our rights. The JessaWoos are in the majority as far as actively working against womens rights, sadly. Never underestimate the need to uphold the patriarchy. I think JK said it best; "The most comfortable place for women to stand has always been where there's most male approval. Such women sell out other women for their own benefit, then point to their personal success as a great feminist triumph."
It's a form of stockholm syndrome. Appease the men so you're not a victim. It doesn't make them on the right side of history though. They are on the wrong side of history, as all handmaidens have always been. So we should remember that when some say we feminists are 'on the wrong side of history'. It's actually them that are.

Oh, soz. The wrong terminology for you? And you think it exposes … agendas? Go outside.