Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines

Any comment on the fact that you think it’s ok for Biles to call her manly because she’s 5 foot eight, even though you got that wrong anyway?

Again I have pointed this out in my first or second. Anyhow...

She doesn’t vote for a party that “I don’t approve of.”

She’s an active campaigning voice for the party - and specifically for the hard right element of that party - that is stripping away women’s rights across America. She’s already made clear her political intentions clear so for all you who laud her views - I hope you’ll be delighted when she achieves her ambitions. What a huge stride in feminism and the advancement of women’s rights that will be.

I have massive gaps in my knowledge, but what I do know I tend to remember 😉

Sionnach, is there a book or film you have not seen or read. How do you fit so much into one lifetime?😍

I’m not buying that, both tweets are still up, no sign of her deleting or apologising. It’s her view, she obviously is this nasty and misogynistic.

Joseph Heller, Catch-22:

Their names were Gus and Wes and they had succeeded in elevating medicine to an exact science. All men reporting on sick call with temperatures above 102 were rushed to the hospital. All those except Yossarian reporting on sick call with temperatures below 102 had their gums and toes painted with gentian violet solution and were given a laxative to throw away into the bushes. All those reporting on a sick call with temperatures of exactly 102 were asked to return in an hour to have their temperatures taken again. Yossarian, with his temperature of 101, could go to the hospital whenever he wanted to because he was not afraid of them.

If Martina recognises her as a woman, that should be good enough for anyone.

I propose that every one under 5'8" is Female and everyone over 5'8" is Male. Works for me. Although it will mean that I just lost a son and gained a daughter.

And as to your other point about a third category, it isn’t what TIM want, they want to compete against women, because we are meant to accept them as women. Which they’re not, they’re men. It’s all about power and control.

@Skipthisbit Riley Gaines is 165cm which is five foot five. At least deal in facts.

I think genderists work on the basis that if a woman isn’t stereotypically female looking, we think they’re not women. But that’s how they are more likely to think, rather. I don’t think gender non conforming women are manly, I think male people are. “Trans women” are not actually women, so I don’t compare any women to them.

I thought that, but then realised that this poster probably didn’t think about much when they posted.

My immediate response was WTAF?

This does seem about on target for some posters on this thread.

It is very much, I don’t like her other views so she deserves to be attacked and bullied and marginalised on what she says about this issue also.

Tribal sums it up.

Did you mean to say that you think women who are five foot eight are therefore comparable to men @Skipthisbit? Otherwise it’s a truly bizarre non sequitur.

No one has ever opposed categories for transgender sports. The issue is that no one wants them.

do you know what trans-identified females do about sport - they almost exclusively remain in women's sport, and apparently that's fine for them. It is only the males who seem to think they should be given access to the female category and that it would be crazy for them to compete against other males.

Follow the yellow brick road as to why there is that differernce between even opposite sex transgendered people.

I also am bloody tired of the stupid assumptions that progressive people seem to make about Republicans. You know there are more Republican voting black Americans now than there have been since the 1960s?

Yes gymnastics is probably one of the few disciplines in which a male physique is not an automatic advantage.
In the same way Tom Daley could #be kind and inclusive because his medal chances weren't at risk ....🙄

Lipstick Alley have some fun takes on this, for anyone interested.

I know SB is tiny even for a woman, but anyone who thinks Riley looks like a man needs to go to Specsavers.

That aside, if you're doing political lobbying, you do what you can in the environment where you find yourself. That might mean trying to influence people who you don't entirely approve of. That might mean allying on one particular issue with people who you agree with on very little else. It's a tactical decision more than a moral one.

I can tell you from personal experience that lots of left wing Irish women think Richard Boyd Barrett is an ally. Personally, having extensive experience of RBB, I wouldn't go within a mile of him, but if you think he can help you win a policy goal, you do you. I only get angry when they feel they have to go further and talk about what a lovely man that evil little shit is.

In the American environment, where members of the Blue Tribe feel contaminated by any contact with the Red Tribe, I'm sure it's a lot more difficult.

I have responded criticising that.i have called it bullying also

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As long as we're all clear that her height is much more important than her objections to an erect penis in the women's changing rooms, that's the main thing.

Indeed. It’s all a bit desperate.

Riley Gaines political views are part and parcel of the appalling MAGA ideology

This isn’t really helping your argument. It’s not Riley’s fault that the Democrats were so horrifically bad they made Trump look like a viable option. California is a state that enthusiastically removed women’s rights and safeguarding and Gavin brought in legislation that undermined parental rights among other things. At least he is starting to listen now and finally gets the fact that men in women’s sport is not ok.

This thread is about Simone Biles’ vicious and entirely personal attack on Riley Gaines for her campaign to save women’s sports. Feel free to start your own thread to criticise Riley Gaines’ political views on unrelated topics.

Maybe post, post truth?

Post truth indeed! But no doubt Riley only being five five and a half will be used to further discredit by those who don't want to hear it.