Simone Biles attacks Riley Gaines

It’s anything that @Skipthisbit doesn’t agree with I think.

For those wanting to see one of the tweets that kicked this off, it was a tweet about this winning team. The male pitcher did an awesome job! But was on the female team. Not one girl leaving the plate for first base.

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How ridiculous.

Haha, no, sorry, I wasn't clear!

It's a girls' softball team that have a trans-identifying male as their pitcher and unsurprisingly won.

Riley commented on that, which prompted Simone Biles attack on her, accusing Riley of bullying the team.

Biles was defending the softball team that won the female tournament by fielding a male participant in a key position.

Indeed. Are 'Reform and their handmaidens' far right like PP suggests? What do we call parties to the right of Reform? Who gets to decide? BBC?

Possibly not to be found @RomanCavalryChoir, skip described feminism as an entitled, special princess movement. I mean we can all see there’s not a more explicit sense of princessy entitlement than expecting women’s sport to be for women…

Simone Biles (appropriate name) defended a women's team that won with transgender participants.
Hang on, the US women’s gymnasts have TIMs in their team?

This is such a good fucking point.

When your 4'8" everyone looks like a giant to you, maybe the comment was 'small women' syndrome.
Are we sure SB is black, or is she just 'identifying' as black, I mean my senses tell me she's black, but my senses tell me the Lisa Thomas is a man, and apparently my senses are wrong, he's a 'women'.
RG's politics are irrelevant, she's been campaigning to get men out of women sports, the fact that she, along with 77 million other Americans, is MAGA is DARVO, it was a nasty post, the fact that is start with "You're truly sick..." says it all.

I don’t give a shit about Riley Gaines’ politics. I just don’t want my daughter to be subjected to biological men in changing rooms.

Do we need a definition of ‘far right’ by the way?

What makes the Republican Party ‘far right’ rather than merely ‘right wing’?

My politics are very left wing and yet I can acknowledge that historically, Kemi Badenoch has been great at defending women's rights and fighting for our rights to single sex spaces and clear language.

There is very little else I agree with Kemi on. And I thought she was way off the mark with her speech regarding maternity leave.

The fact that we are diametrically opposed politically doesn't mean I can't applaud her stance on women's rights, and appreciate the work she's done in this area.

Kellie Jay Keene is another example. I'm not a fan of her politics but she's a fucking warrior when it comes to fighting for women's rights.

Same with Riley Gaines.

I don't have to like the fact she's MAGA or agree with the rest of her politics to appreciate the fact that she's willing to stand up for the rights of women to be safe, and to compete fairly in sport.

If the orange toddler himself comes out with a speech tomorrow about the importance of finding a cure for cancer, am I supposed to disagree just because it's Trump, and we all know he's a vile, corrupt, misogynistic sexual offender?

Simone Biles (appropriate name) defended a women's team that won with transgender participants. She attacked Riley's appearance, mocked her athletic record, and suggested that women have to find solutions that appease men - while steadfastly being ignorant of the fact that women have TRIED but nothing other than dominating women, removing their rights, and taking their spaces is good enough for some.

You don't have to like ANYTHING about Riley Gaines to agree that Biles' behaviour is absolutely disgusting.

I wouldn’t know if it’s only one comment because I clearly don’t follow SB’s movements in the way you clearly do with RG, a bit obsessively if you don’t mind me saying.

The only other US sporting champion I can think of who's supported Martina Navratilova is Chris Evert. But I don't know her voting habits or whether they'd be acceptable to the pure in heart.

You’re just showing your lack of critical thinking skills here, just stop, you’re persuading no one.

One more time for the world:

I understand you don't like her politics. Do you feel that her politics mean she deserves to be subjected to a man walking around her locker room with his erect penis on display?

Same. These arguments leave me cold, as do attempts to guilt trip me.

Simone’s “nasty spiteful body shaming” …. that’s one comment yes? One? She’s made one “nasty spiteful body shamming” comment.

Riley’s “alleged support of the far right” …. that’s the multiple appearances on every far right TV show and podcast cast actively campaigning for MAGA candidates. That’s standing up and speaking at “grab ‘em by the pussy’s” political rallies. That’s campaigning for Paul Rund reelection. That “alleged” support.

Gosh…

Well… I would trust that Sharron would know what she was talking about with regards to protecting women’s sports, and likely not listen much to what she says about Reform unless it was another issue that maybe Reform was discussing that was supported with studies and facts. Then I would listen, do my own research and work out my position.

Isn’t that what adults typically did? Or have I got that wrong? That anyone who I disagree with some things on, should be demonised.

It’s a classic tactic of ‘far right’ people, they deliberately try to disguise themselves so we will believe they’re something that they’re not.

Oh no, sorry, that’s trans identifying men pretending to be women. My bad.

I mean, having quite a bit of experience with the left activist world, I can tell you that left wing politics abounds in (a) extremely dodgy men, (b) handmaidens who will defend those dodgy men under any circumstances, and (c) if you're unwilling to turn a blind eye to the dodgy men, you will be called a nazi.

This kind of thing stopped working on me about 25 years ago.

I'm sure the right has its own pathologies - in fact my right wing friends tell me all about them - but you might like to know that I'm immune to tribalism as an argument.

Quite.

I suppose it's the difference between rational people who believe that there should be plurality of views in a democratic society (even if you disagree with those views) and those who want to shut down any opposing view, as seen in the TRA stance of 'no debate'.

As pp have said, the reason Trump won is due to the weakness of the left and the fact that people didn’t see them as trustworthy and electable. Attacking RG in such a silly way isn’t going to change that, it’s more likely to make it worse. And I don’t give a fuck how many medals she has.

Was there established beef between them before now or did this come out of left field?

It seems a bit personal, especially Biles' comments about Gaines' size.