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Good Law Practice launch a EHCR/Supreme Court challenge over toilets

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fromorbit · 07/06/2025 07:38

After raising over 418K it turns out the GLP's amazing legal case is all about toilets. Details:

https://archive.is/TWRTl

No doubt it will fail like most of their previous legal cases.

Previous thread:
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5336208-good-law-project-suing-the-ehrc-and-bridget-phillipson-letter-before-action?page=1

Good Law Project suing the EHRC and Bridget Phillipson - letter before action | Mumsnet

Sorry if this has already been shared - here are the links to their letter and statement. Looking forward to the Mumsnet analysis :-) [[https://good...

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5336208-good-law-project-suing-the-ehrc-and-bridget-phillipson-letter-before-action?page=1

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 13/11/2025 19:04

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ArabellaScott · 13/11/2025 18:35

'We had a good hearing - and the judge listened carefully to our points. '

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.bsky.social/post/3m5jnbywzes2b

'The hearing in our judicial review challenge to the EHRC's (now withdrawn) Interim Guidance has finished. Judgment will follow later. No indication given as to when but he's usually pretty efficient and I would be surprised if we didn't get a judgment before Christmas.'

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.org/post/3m5jmozazvc2z

WTF is the point of a JR for guidance that's been withdrawn?

Presumably they want to say if it was wrong in the interim, they won’t be able to use it in the final version?

I just don’t understand their point though?
The SC judgment was clear that ‘inclusive’ spaces are no longer SS, but MS.

I don’t see how any guidance can go against the SC judgement?

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 18:58

Nothing yet from TT

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 13/11/2025 18:44

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MelOfTheRoses · 13/11/2025 18:41

WTF is the point of a JR for guidance that's been withdrawn?

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OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 13/11/2025 18:41

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ArabellaScott · 13/11/2025 18:35

'We had a good hearing - and the judge listened carefully to our points. '

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.bsky.social/post/3m5jnbywzes2b

'The hearing in our judicial review challenge to the EHRC's (now withdrawn) Interim Guidance has finished. Judgment will follow later. No indication given as to when but he's usually pretty efficient and I would be surprised if we didn't get a judgment before Christmas.'

https://bsky.app/profile/goodlawproject.org/post/3m5jmozazvc2z

WTF is the point of a JR for guidance that's been withdrawn?

GreenUp · 13/11/2025 18:31

I don't know if anybody has posted already but Maya has tweeted a link to a full transcript of yesterday's submissions. It looks like it was done by a professional stenographer as it is very detailed.

https://x.com/MForstater/status/1988929135104913745?s=20

https://nitter.net/MForstater/status/1988929135104913745#m

MyAmpleSheep · 13/11/2025 18:25

Bluemin · 13/11/2025 18:14

I just read through today's submissions. The judge seems on the ball and happy to point out where the claimants' case is incoherent. A lovely juicy bit where he pointed out that the case cited actually disproved the point he was making and quite a few "well that doesnt help your argument" type points. Looking forward to tomorrow. Its so much easier to read arguments that actually make logical sense!

Where did you find today's submissions?

SionnachRuadh · 13/11/2025 18:16

MyAmpleSheep · 13/11/2025 18:11

I think it's about what a charity is allowed to spend money on. If a charity pays people money do do thinking, then I suppose the subject of that thinking is open to examination by the CC.

I can see that argument being made, but it seems a bit of a sneaky way to direct PE away from commentary on things that he would rather they didn't comment on.

Bluemin · 13/11/2025 18:14

I just read through today's submissions. The judge seems on the ball and happy to point out where the claimants' case is incoherent. A lovely juicy bit where he pointed out that the case cited actually disproved the point he was making and quite a few "well that doesnt help your argument" type points. Looking forward to tomorrow. Its so much easier to read arguments that actually make logical sense!

MyAmpleSheep · 13/11/2025 18:11

SionnachRuadh · 13/11/2025 16:43

Jolyon is trying to get the Charity Commission to tell a think tank what it's allowed to think about?

I think it's about what a charity is allowed to spend money on. If a charity pays people money do do thinking, then I suppose the subject of that thinking is open to examination by the CC.

ItsCoolForCats · 13/11/2025 18:07

When will we hear the result? Next month? If GLP lose 🤞🏻, is this likely to give Bridget Phillipson the impetus to get on and lay the code of practice before parliament?

ArabellaScott · 13/11/2025 17:53

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/11/2025 17:35

I’m excited for the summaries!

A nation waits with bated breath!

Ereshkigalangcleg · 13/11/2025 17:35

I’m excited for the summaries!

ArabellaScott · 13/11/2025 17:26

SionnachRuadh · 13/11/2025 16:43

Jolyon is trying to get the Charity Commission to tell a think tank what it's allowed to think about?

Two fish in a tank, one says to the other: Do you know how to drive this thing?

ArabellaScott · 13/11/2025 17:24

https://x.com/MForstater/status/1989003063181361222

'We put in evidence about why single sex services are provided and why they are provided for in law: including women's dignity, privacy and security. The Good Law Project put forward evidence by Sally Hines in response!'

<pours large glass of wine>

anyolddinosaur · 13/11/2025 17:11

Policy exchange have 8 recent publications on their website of which one is about cancel culture, which I guess includes comment on trans. Some of the others may do so as I dont see how you'd talk about children mental health or universities without mentioning it, but they all go beyond the trans obsession. This sound like "everything is about meeeeee" and I hope the investigation is short and the Good Laugh Project are told that the role of think tanks is to think about problems.

MyrtleLion · 13/11/2025 17:10

SionnachRuadh · 13/11/2025 16:43

Jolyon is trying to get the Charity Commission to tell a think tank what it's allowed to think about?

It's not as if his own organisation has "an unhealthy interest in trans issues".

SionnachRuadh · 13/11/2025 16:43

lcakethereforeIam · 13/11/2025 16:20

Sorry not followed the thread but this is imo, too good to not share

Charity Commission opens case into Policy Exchange https://share.google/ewR88qLUEaBC0Gp5P

GLP’s 27-page complaint filed last month about Policy Exchange, a charity co-founded by former justice secretary Michael Gove in 2002, alleged that it was in breach of charity law by showing “an unhealthy obsession with trans issues".

O, wad some pow'r...

Apologies if this is old news.

Jolyon is trying to get the Charity Commission to tell a think tank what it's allowed to think about?

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 13/11/2025 16:26

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lcakethereforeIam · 13/11/2025 16:20

Sorry not followed the thread but this is imo, too good to not share

Charity Commission opens case into Policy Exchange https://share.google/ewR88qLUEaBC0Gp5P

GLP’s 27-page complaint filed last month about Policy Exchange, a charity co-founded by former justice secretary Michael Gove in 2002, alleged that it was in breach of charity law by showing “an unhealthy obsession with trans issues".

O, wad some pow'r...

Apologies if this is old news.

Seriestwo · 13/11/2025 16:11

It seems to me that some men have never learned how to manage if someone, especially a woman, says “no” to him.

all of this nonsense boils down to that

OpheliaWitchoftheWoods · 13/11/2025 16:06

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