'The Protocol' series on children's treatment for gender by the New York Times

Episode 2 and only a brief mention of negative side effects. And no in-depth analysis of the study that de Vries headed up even though they were interviewing de Vries.

It does seem that the next episode covers the way that the current affirming only treatment has skipped steps recommended. But on the other hand, there seems to be missed opportunities again to point out the now well exposed issues about the study.

I am listening to this and wondering where it is going. So far the first episode seems to be just setting the scene with no discussion with the very first adolescent patient about negative impacts of the treatments. And she was on puberty blockers for 5 or 6 years.

I can understand just letting someone speak about their experiences, but if people only listened to this one episode, they could very well end up with a view that there were no health issues with the treatment at all. If anything, I find it concerningly edited with this in mind.

And FG's story seems to be that she wrote a poem that her parents thought meant she was going to commit suicide, but she had no thoughts about committing suicide. It was just a tweenage overly dramatic poem. But an aunt had read a book about trans sexual which she gave to FG's mother. The mother took FG to a psychotherapist with the poem and the clinician decided that it was a strong case and put the FG onto puberty blockers.

But at the end, FG says that she appreciates those clinicians actions because it saved her life??? This is confusing as she said she hadn't thought about committing suicide? Is this retrofitting the narrative?

The ads are frequent and very distracting so far.

I have started. But it will take me a while.

I figured at least some of them are worth it even if it reminds me of stuff I have forgotten. Or pulls out different perspectives I have not considered.

Even if these are incredibly biased, they will be thought provoking. But I am hoping that they will be a good, long, information source. Particularly for those who might be newly exposed and want some back story.

I will probably note bits on this thread as I come across them.

Episode 6

The Now

State bans are enacted. The Supreme Court is poised to weigh in. President Trump declares that there are only two genders and threatens to withhold federal funds from hospitals that provide pediatric gender treatments. We hear from kids, parents and providers caught in the middle about the complicated decisions they are making.

Episode 5

The Review

The heated debate is not limited to the U.S. In England, a pediatrician tasked with figuring out how the country’s health care system should provide the care finds that the evidence is “remarkably weak.” One major medical group argues that’s missing the point — and repeating history.

Episode 4

The Whistleblower

A small Midwestern gender clinic gets consumed by a growing political fight when a whistleblower goes public. She had begun to see the treatments as harmful, and decided the political route was the only way to fix it.

Episode 3

The American Approach

In Boston, a psychologist helps set up the first youth gender clinic in the U.S., adapting the Dutch approach. Across the country, a rising star in the field questions their methods. Meanwhile, demand increases worldwide as the types of patients seeking care change.

Episode 2

The Gender Kids

The new treatment is codified into a protocol, and the Dutch publish a landmark study that launches the field of youth gender medicine. A former patient describes the benefit of early treatment in a society that is still hostile to trans people.

Apologies about that link. You would have to cut and paste it, and it takes you to the playlist.

This looks to be the first episode

The Beginning

The story of youth gender medicine starts in The Netherlands, with a clinical psychologist and a 16 year-old who was determined to go through life as the gender he long felt he was.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=G5UOm3BB8Rs&list=PLdMrbgYfVl-uRbb-KAAkSNzigHzQAX2d&index=6&pp=iAQB