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Screamingabdabz · 03/06/2025 21:49

She’s right about misogny and all the issues women face from men. But I think someone should do the sisterly thing and tell her the revelation about what transwomen actually are.

Fucks up her clever lyrics a bit… “D’oh!”

BlueEyedBogWitch · 03/06/2025 21:47

Last time I saw Kate Nash she was charging about in a leotard on that GLOW series about wrestling.

The acting parts seem to have dried up along with the ability to write lyrics that scan.

SnoopyPajamas · 03/06/2025 21:46

The Guardian are scraping the bottom of the barrel a bit, aren't they? Kate Nash hasn't been relevant for years. I had Foundations on my mp3 player back when it came out, and even I can't name another song of hers. It took me a minute to remember her one hit.

Kate's obviously desperate for a headline, so I'll stop rewarding her with attention. But I will say, this might be a good sign. If The Guardian couldn't get anyone else to bash gender critical women in exchange for promotion, the landscape must be changing. Younger artists might finally be waking up to the fact that the trans movement is a wagon full of toxic waste, metaphorically speaking, and they might not want to jump on it.

SinnerBoy · 03/06/2025 21:43

rebmacesrevda · Today 21:07

I thought her USP as a shit version of Lily Allen (as if LA wasn't shit enough) was always a weak premise for a career.

I think Lily Allen is pretty funny, the first one I heard was the one where she'd shagged her ex's best mate - I laughed. He deserved it.

teawamutu · 03/06/2025 21:42

Andoutcomethewolves · 03/06/2025 21:36

I haven't. But genuinely if you saw my friend you would never suspect she was born male. She's had all the surgery and has been living as female since she was 13. I don't see her as a threat to anyone.

This is the thing, there are genuine trans people (obviously you can't change your sex but I do believe there are some people born in the wrong body). But there are far too many now who are just predators and wanting to be exhibisionist/sex pests/intrude on women's spaces. I just don't think it's as clear cut as a lot of people on here do. Yes my friend was born male but believe me, you would not be intimidated by her in women's spaces. She's actually very shy and quiet and certainly wouldn't do anything to make people uncomfortable. Unlike my neighbour...

I recognise your compassion, although I entirely reject the idea of being born in the wrong body - how could we be?

It is difficult and I don't celebrate the inoffensive old school TW being banned - but given we've no way of telling then from the vicious violent misogynists at first glance, a hard no to all of them is how it has to be.

usedtobeaylis · 03/06/2025 21:40

There is absolutely no indicator of actual feminism in a single line of that article.

Andoutcomethewolves · 03/06/2025 21:36

teawamutu · 03/06/2025 21:12

I am genuinely sorry for people like your friend, caught in the crossfire of the TRA batshittery.

But that said. Have you talked about the SC ruling? Do they accept it in terms of staying out of women's spaces now?

I haven't. But genuinely if you saw my friend you would never suspect she was born male. She's had all the surgery and has been living as female since she was 13. I don't see her as a threat to anyone.

This is the thing, there are genuine trans people (obviously you can't change your sex but I do believe there are some people born in the wrong body). But there are far too many now who are just predators and wanting to be exhibisionist/sex pests/intrude on women's spaces. I just don't think it's as clear cut as a lot of people on here do. Yes my friend was born male but believe me, you would not be intimidated by her in women's spaces. She's actually very shy and quiet and certainly wouldn't do anything to make people uncomfortable. Unlike my neighbour...

pinkyredrose · 03/06/2025 21:34

LottieMeDownAgain · 03/06/2025 20:54

Just be cool ok, like me… just a cool girl / 37 year old woman, being edgy and brilliant, beloved by cool people who are almost always LGBTQ+ and not old women like you

Old women?

BriceNobeslovesMurielHeslop · 03/06/2025 21:30

Another one who hasn’t heard anything she’s done since Foundations. I’ll die on the hill that these woman know exactly what the problems with this (and pro- SW) ideology are , but it doesn’t suit their narrative so who cares?! (Cough, cough looking at you Self Esteem and your Gilead - styled tour).

tobee · 03/06/2025 21:26

Fuck off Kate.

Alucard55 · 03/06/2025 21:22

teawamutu · 03/06/2025 21:02

She said it was to fund her tours, because they lose money.

Those of less invincible delusions of competence or relevance might have concluded it was time for a new career. But not Nashers.

Does she ponder why Springsteen has never needed to sell his arse?

Although I've just read that Lilly Allen makes more money selling her feet than from her music.

SueSuddio · 03/06/2025 21:15

I'm sorry but the celebrity, established artist and actress Kate Nash does onlyfans, saying she needs to to make a go in music. Literally thousands of less successful musicians and actors don't need to go down that route - or, being hairy blokes, wouldn't be able to anyway.

She lacks reasoning already so this kind of tallies with that.

teawamutu · 03/06/2025 21:12

Andoutcomethewolves · 03/06/2025 21:08

I didn't realise Kate Nash had done anything since Foundations! Is she just trying to stay relevant?

The trans stuff is just getting boring now. I have one trans woman friend who you would never ever think was born a bloke and is just quietly living her life as a woman - no issues there. Then people like my neighbour who assumes anyone who's lesbian or bi owes him sex (and yes he's very clearly a him despite the dress) and is a sexual predator. Two very different categories of people and I don't think you can group them together. I will never see my neighbour as a woman. My friend I do and would have no problem sharing a bathroom etc with her (not sports etc but she doesn't intrude on women's stuff like that)

Kate Nash is just getting on the bandwagon

I am genuinely sorry for people like your friend, caught in the crossfire of the TRA batshittery.

But that said. Have you talked about the SC ruling? Do they accept it in terms of staying out of women's spaces now?

teawamutu · 03/06/2025 21:10

Arran2024 · 03/06/2025 21:08

She's headlining one of the minor stages at Glastonbury - I wonder if she will do a Jade Thirwall and lead the crowd in an anti JKR chant!

Of course she bloody will.

I honestly can't believe she is pushing 40. WTAF.

AlexandraLeaving · 03/06/2025 21:08

She seems to be as good a feminist as she is a singer.

Andoutcomethewolves · 03/06/2025 21:08

I didn't realise Kate Nash had done anything since Foundations! Is she just trying to stay relevant?

The trans stuff is just getting boring now. I have one trans woman friend who you would never ever think was born a bloke and is just quietly living her life as a woman - no issues there. Then people like my neighbour who assumes anyone who's lesbian or bi owes him sex (and yes he's very clearly a him despite the dress) and is a sexual predator. Two very different categories of people and I don't think you can group them together. I will never see my neighbour as a woman. My friend I do and would have no problem sharing a bathroom etc with her (not sports etc but she doesn't intrude on women's stuff like that)

Kate Nash is just getting on the bandwagon

Arran2024 · 03/06/2025 21:08

She's headlining one of the minor stages at Glastonbury - I wonder if she will do a Jade Thirwall and lead the crowd in an anti JKR chant!

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rebmacesrevda · 03/06/2025 21:07

teawamutu · 03/06/2025 21:02

She said it was to fund her tours, because they lose money.

Those of less invincible delusions of competence or relevance might have concluded it was time for a new career. But not Nashers.

I thought her USP as a shit version of Lily Allen (as if LA wasn't shit enough) was always a weak premise for a career.

teawamutu · 03/06/2025 21:02

Alucard55 · 03/06/2025 20:57

That'll be why she's selling her arse.

She said it was to fund her tours, because they lose money.

Those of less invincible delusions of competence or relevance might have concluded it was time for a new career. But not Nashers.

Alucard55 · 03/06/2025 20:57

That'll be why she's selling her arse.

zanahoria · 03/06/2025 20:55

Kate Nash has not had a single in the charts for fifteen years

Her last album peaked at #78

LottieMeDownAgain · 03/06/2025 20:54

Just be cool ok, like me… just a cool girl / 37 year old woman, being edgy and brilliant, beloved by cool people who are almost always LGBTQ+ and not old women like you

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 03/06/2025 20:50

Bogus fucking "artiste". Can she not hear herself?

Nameychangington · 03/06/2025 20:49

Yeah not taking feminism lessons from a woman who sells pictures of her naked arse and thinks men are women, thanks though.

Arran2024 · 03/06/2025 20:49

nauticant · 03/06/2025 20:45

Just in case you want to see the lyrics to Kate Nash's now song:
:
https://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/katenash/germ.html

It doesn't look very catchy!

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