Kate Nash article in the Guardian

Exactly this. I'm going to guess he wouldn't insist or even ask, though.

The friend in this case, OTOH, also didn't ask but sounds like will continue using them anyway.

It's always hilarious when an acronym hasn't organically arisen from a meaningful phrase, but rather somebody has clearly come up with a word that they want to use and then super tenuously tried to mangle a phrase in there that almost fits.

Or Rik from The Young Ones - except it would undoubtedly also shoehorn praise for Cliff Richard in there somehow!

Kate doesn’t reckon being punched in the head by a bloke puts women in danger?

Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Quite the intellectual heavyweight, isn’t she.

🎼🎤🎼"Women are facing serious dangers
Not during boxing matches or from trans people needing a piss
But from actual violence that is carried out against them every week
According to End Violence Against Women, every 3 days a woman is killed
By a man
More than 100,000 girls are at risk and living with the consequences of FGM, forced marriage and honour based abuse
Kathryn Bromwich from the Guardian states that Trans people make up roughly 0.5% of the UK population & are twice as likely to be victims of crime than cis people.
According to Home Office figures, this country has seen an increase in hate crimes towards Trans people
And cis women are supposed to focus on a threat we have yet to see manifest from a small minority of the country who are struggling to stay safe themselves
^^
Girl
You're not radical
Exclusionary regressive misogynist
Germ!
Germ
Yeah you're not rad at all
Er, Ew, Girl, Listen up"🎤🎼

Wow, the lyrics are quite something! As Arabella said, very catchy 😆 I've been humming them to myself all day.

It's like if Adrian Mole wrote festival songs.

"Do you weep, Mrs Thatcher, do you weep?
Do you wake, Mrs Thatcher, in your sleep?
Do you weep like a sad willow?
On your Marks and Spencer’s pillow?
Are your tears molten steel?
Do you weep?
Do you wake with ‘Three million’ on your brain?
Are you sorry that they’ll never work again?
When you’re dressing in your blue, do you see the waiting queue?
Do you weep, Mrs Thatcher, do you weep?"

Just to add another sadness. Amnesty UK are pushing Kate Nash's 'lets have a heated debate' in the form of popular music. It is using her video with their logo and supporting her message on Tiktok.

A £3 Amnesty international direct debit, listening to Billy rouse a festival crowd and using Morrissey to heal a broken heart were part of my 20s. I feel i'm living my best AiBU if you're over 50, what no longer brings you joy thread.

My brother is really nice too. I’ve known him all his life and he’s really quiet and just lives his life, he’s really kind and funny. I’m happy to share a changing room with him, but I don’t think other women should.

😂

Kate Nash is irrelevant and on the strength of that article, incredibly childish. She really thinks she is a feminist, calling other women GERMs?

Crap song and a cringeworthy attempt at being down with the yoof. Pathetic, Kate! Get some self respect - and some music skills!

I'm honestly very disappointed at Billy Bragg - I've followed him on social media for years and seen him live a few times - he always seemed pretty sound and left wing. But now he just seems like a misogynistic knobber

@PermanentTemporary I'm in a band and consider myself gender critical and a feminist. I certainly don't rate Billy Bragg as a person or a performer nor do I rate him as a socialist - the 60 + man who likes to have his photo taken with young female lap dancers . How progressive ! As for Kate Nash - she never bothers about working class women in prison , the majority who have been physically, emotionally or sexually abused who would have to share facillities with men who male sex offenders if Trans women were allowed self ID which she wants ? She really hasn't thought it through has she or she doesn't give a tosh does she as long as Kate gets a gig at Glasto with bloody stupid Billy Bragg.

I really do try to be even-handed and try to understand that the other side might genuinely believe they’re right and we are wrong.

There has to be space for an exchange of views or else we’re as bad as they are with their No Debate bullshit.

But it’s REALLY hard to be fair and objective reading the absolute fucking drivel in Kate Nash’s lyrics.

She’s effectively trying to deny the experience of other women and mocking those with GC views.

She’s cherry-picking statistics - I see she’s decided not to mention the number of trans prisoners who commit sexual crimes against women and/or children. IIRC it was around 70%. Weirdly though, she doesn’t mention that in her song.

She’s very keen to point out there’s no issue with boxing rings or toilets, and she scolds us all by holding the same view as Trump, berating us for bringing down society.

The issue isn’t that she’s in the TWAW camp - it’s that she’s proactively attacking women who dare to hold GC views. Silencing them, mocking them, continuing to add to the pile-on that we’ve had to endure for years for daring to assert our right to safety.

This isn’t about having a go at Kate because she wants to champion trans rights. That’s up to her. She could do that without trampling on the many brave women who are standing up for their rights and safety. There was no need to perpetuate smear tactics or to suggest we’re all Trump fangirls. Many (most?) of us detest the orange toddler.

This is a cheap attempt at getting approval by throwing women under the bus yet again.

Fuck you Kate.

Just Wow.

Kate is clearly desperate for fame/ relevance/ cash off on my Christmas

Calling women ‘germs’ is pretty offensive though, isn’t it?

So, y’know…hard to give a fuck about her stupid ‘creative endeavours’ when she’s using them to insult women.

Dick panderer.

Next!

KN has written a song referring to GC feminists as GERMs. It’s hardly peak feminism itself.

It's a fairly major achievement to be 'only' headlining a small stage at one of the most famous festivals in the world. Or to be rated as a performer by Billy Bragg.

I dont think she's wrong that plenty of voices on the GC side aren't radical or feminist. Nor would they claim to be.

She’s not “headlining Glastonbury” 😂
Shes one of the headliners on the Leftfield stage - which is Billy Bragg’s stage - music and chat with all his mates (Ash Sarkar etc 🥱)
it used to be a good and busy stage… but there are so many stages at Glastonbury now that it doesn’t usually draw big crowds. There are loads of better acts on at the same time as her set.

Not heard the song but fairly sure it will sound like a bandwagon being jumped on....whatever it is though it is certainly not feminist as woman to use whatever platform you have to speak down to any women who disagree with in the nauseating and wholly arrogant way these lyrics do

Yep, it was released in 2019 - the full title was Horrible Histories: The Movie - Rotten Romans.

@PermanentTemporary If Kate was playing Glastonbury with her beliefs on gender ideology and refrained from the she slagging off other women who wish to keep single sex spaces. (You know- the law!) maybe I could respect her. Do honestly think Kate could play Glasto and be openly gender critical? Let me tell you this, she could not unless she wants a legal fight or massive hassle in her life.

Not sure what a thread attacking a woman who's headlining at Glastonbury with her own creative work is doing in the Feminism Chat board. I never thought that being GC was about insisting that everybody believes and says the same thing, and certainly not about jeering at other women.

If you read the thread I've already clarified what I meant and corrected myself

Me too. I'd have used it all over this thread - so many funny comments. 😂