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AudHvamm · 01/07/2025 13:47

HRTQueen · 30/06/2025 15:52

Absolutely agree

They remind me of women particularly in the 90's (I am sure not the only decade) who liked to state they were not feminists and can be just as bad as the boys 🙄

Again an era of men controlling the narrative and being a lad (celebration of young men being boisterous and treating women poorly) or ladette (acting just like the lads which really suited, yes you have guessed it men) was highly fashionable

Direct correlation between the friends who 15-20 years ago said things like "I don't need feminism because I've never experienced sexism" and the friends who are "be kind" now.

Disappointing because most of them seemed to have an actual feminist awakening in the 2010s and realised that, no shit, they had experienced sexism.

SidewaysOtter · 01/07/2025 13:38

Shortshriftandlethal · 01/07/2025 13:30

I guess lots of effing and blinding makes you apear edgy or radical in her mind.

What a deeply unpleasant and intemperate person.

The hot weather, perhaps? Makes everyone tetchy, poor dear.

Shortshriftandlethal · 01/07/2025 13:30

I guess lots of effing and blinding makes you apear edgy or radical in her mind.

What a deeply unpleasant and intemperate person.

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Did you just use the idea of a woman looking like a man as an insult? Did that come across as supportive to transwomen in your head?

MagpiePi · 01/07/2025 13:09

Trans people aren't born in the wrong body any more than someone with anorexia is. It is just another form of body dysmorphia.

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HRTQueen · 30/06/2025 15:52

lady69 · 30/06/2025 14:10

Feminists who centre men in their feminism are a special kind of stupid.

Absolutely agree

They remind me of women particularly in the 90's (I am sure not the only decade) who liked to state they were not feminists and can be just as bad as the boys 🙄

Again an era of men controlling the narrative and being a lad (celebration of young men being boisterous and treating women poorly) or ladette (acting just like the lads which really suited, yes you have guessed it men) was highly fashionable

MintChocCat · 30/06/2025 15:15

She’s embarrassing herself…

HunnyPot · 30/06/2025 14:30

I have one trans woman friend who you would never ever think was born a bloke

Nonsense! I can always tell.

NewGoldFox · 30/06/2025 14:22

I listened to the Adam Buxton podcast she did. It sounds like she has difficulties remaining civil with anyone. Sounded like she likes to sack people and be generally bolshy.

SantasLargerHelper · 30/06/2025 14:21

SpidersAreShitheads · 04/06/2025 04:50

I really do try to be even-handed and try to understand that the other side might genuinely believe they’re right and we are wrong.

There has to be space for an exchange of views or else we’re as bad as they are with their No Debate bullshit.

But it’s REALLY hard to be fair and objective reading the absolute fucking drivel in Kate Nash’s lyrics.

She’s effectively trying to deny the experience of other women and mocking those with GC views.

She’s cherry-picking statistics - I see she’s decided not to mention the number of trans prisoners who commit sexual crimes against women and/or children. IIRC it was around 70%. Weirdly though, she doesn’t mention that in her song.

She’s very keen to point out there’s no issue with boxing rings or toilets, and she scolds us all by holding the same view as Trump, berating us for bringing down society.

The issue isn’t that she’s in the TWAW camp - it’s that she’s proactively attacking women who dare to hold GC views. Silencing them, mocking them, continuing to add to the pile-on that we’ve had to endure for years for daring to assert our right to safety.

This isn’t about having a go at Kate because she wants to champion trans rights. That’s up to her. She could do that without trampling on the many brave women who are standing up for their rights and safety. There was no need to perpetuate smear tactics or to suggest we’re all Trump fangirls. Many (most?) of us detest the orange toddler.

This is a cheap attempt at getting approval by throwing women under the bus yet again.

Fuck you Kate.

Yup. Jesus Christ, those lyrics 😳

BackToLurk · 30/06/2025 14:13

zanahoria · 30/06/2025 12:06

Laying into music bosses next - and Denise Welch, who was at the festival supporting her son Matty Healy's band The 1975 - Kate continued: "The music industry doesn't know what to do with me. They tried to get rid of me, but they didn't. There is a record executive sweating their t* off with Matt Healy's mum.

"They're scared of me. I like that. But I was made of mother f Bricks. But they didn’t believe me. I even gave them a second warning a few years later when I told them 'Do not underestimate the girl'. Is it my fault they didn’t believe me?

"I’m not going to give my third warning. It’s too late for that. I’m taking my bricks and I’m throwing them through the f window.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/kate-nash-takes-foul-mouthed-35471088

There is the usual stuff about JKR but could not help laughing at the idea of Denise Welch being out to get her

If you’re made of bricks should you throw bricks? Seems self destructive

lady69 · 30/06/2025 14:10

Feminists who centre men in their feminism are a special kind of stupid.

teawamutu · 30/06/2025 13:56

Rebel Without a Clue.

Sad.

Alucard55 · 30/06/2025 13:54

Why are the music industry scared of her?

DialSquare · 30/06/2025 13:51

She should come with a cringe warning. I keep cringing myself inside out every time she talks. People are scared of her?!!! Who does she think she is? Ronnie Pickering?!!!

Alucard55 · 30/06/2025 13:46

I don't get her point?

SlackJawedDisbeliefXY · 30/06/2025 13:24

... discovered her manager had stolen vast sums of money from her ...

Not familiar with the case but, from the article, the theft seems to be proven? Surely she can sue to get the money back?
Or is this opinion stated as fact?

Nameychangington · 30/06/2025 12:48

Why does she think anyone's scared of her? No one scared of you Kate, no one remembered you existed.

HRTQueen · 30/06/2025 12:46

aww bless Kate

trying too be all edgy and cool and coming over as a silly twerp

but it was funny 😂

zanahoria · 30/06/2025 12:06

Laying into music bosses next - and Denise Welch, who was at the festival supporting her son Matty Healy's band The 1975 - Kate continued: "The music industry doesn't know what to do with me. They tried to get rid of me, but they didn't. There is a record executive sweating their t* off with Matt Healy's mum.

"They're scared of me. I like that. But I was made of mother f Bricks. But they didn’t believe me. I even gave them a second warning a few years later when I told them 'Do not underestimate the girl'. Is it my fault they didn’t believe me?

"I’m not going to give my third warning. It’s too late for that. I’m taking my bricks and I’m throwing them through the f window.”

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/kate-nash-takes-foul-mouthed-35471088

There is the usual stuff about JKR but could not help laughing at the idea of Denise Welch being out to get her

Kate Nash's foul-mouthed swipe at Rod Stewart and Denise Welch at Glastonbury

Singer Kate Nash took aim at various celebrities and politicians as she headlined the Left Field stage at Glastonbury on Saturday night

https://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/kate-nash-takes-foul-mouthed-35471088

teawamutu · 13/06/2025 13:33

Surprised but pleased to say that Nash's ridiculous pile o'shite has achieved something.

At a meet-up last night, a mate made a point of saying, apropos of nothing, how bloody awful i the song was and how it made her feel old not to understand these issues.

And I said not old, sensible. It's a load of bollocks and Nash is just a wokey idiot.

And so, hey presto, two terven find each other.

Thanks Kate!