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LivelyFinch · 03/06/2025 09:41

Just deliver my parcel, I don't need every icon on your App festooned with a trans/rainbow flag. Just do what you are paid to do and don't shuff your political crap down my throat.

Rant over.

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MycatLarry · 03/06/2025 13:45

I passed this monstrosity recently as I was leaving our local hospital Hmm

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MarieDeGournay · 03/06/2025 13:37

WaffleParty · 03/06/2025 12:15

Most trans people just want to get on with their lives and have no impact on anyone else’s.

'no impact on anyone else's'?
Apart from the impact on the media, where trans males have to be referred to as she, apart from the law, where calling a male a male can be a non-crime hate incident, apart from education where children are taught unscientific things like that sex is a spectrum, apart from the lesbian and gay movement where we were forced to accept an unrelated group, who are not same-sex attracted as we are, apart from lesbians who were called sexual racists for defending our right to be ourselves, and not accept men as lesbians, apart from history which is rewritten to insert 'trans' where it is a total anachronism, apart from insisting on using women's single sex spaces, even after the highest court in the land has affirmed our right to single sex spaces...

I could go on, but I think that's enough to show that the idea that 'Most trans people just want to get on with their lives and have no impact on anyone else’s'
is so far from reality that it is an exoplanet outside the solar system of the glaringly obvious.

As is the idea that the trans rights movement is 'just like' the lesbian and gay rights movement. A bit of research on lesbian and gay history will show that it most definitely is not.
What human rights have trans people not got in the UK as of today?

TiredWife · 03/06/2025 13:28

PrettyDamnCosmic · 03/06/2025 12:15

The idea that trans people can be dismissed as just “men with leggings prancing about with erections” is deeply offensive.

It's the men with leggings prancing about with erections who are deeply offensive. Why should anyone pander to this public fetish display?

Yes, or as my friend says, 'if they want to live their lives as a woman why don't they just wear jeans and a cardigan, like the rest of us?'

KathyMalloryKicksAss · 03/06/2025 13:07

WaffleParty · 03/06/2025 12:08

Maybe your DB would appreciate that trans people are fighting the same fight he was fighting in the 60s and show a bit more empathy.
The idea that trans people can be dismissed as just “men with leggings prancing about with erections” is deeply offensive.

Not comparable at all.
The fight for legal same sex marriage didn’t impinge on anyone else’s rights in any way at all.

Trans rights that are being demanded affect the rights of women and girls to have safety, privacy and dignity.

CakeBlanchett · 03/06/2025 13:03

tripleginandtonic · 03/06/2025 10:57

I agree. If it was as simple as treating everyone the same then there's no need for these months, unfortunately homophobia is still very much a problem. Celebrating one group doesn't take away from another.

We’re told the ugly contemporary Pride flag represents the LGBTQ+ community, but these days, much of the hostility toward actual LGB people seems to come from within — particularly from the ever-expanding “TQ++” faction.

We now have heterosexual men who “identify and live as women” harassing lesbians — some quite aggressively — and being applauded for it. Young butch lesbians are being persuaded they’re actually straight men and pushed toward medicalisation. And increasingly, straight women who claim to “identify as men” are pursuing gay men and publicly painting themselves as victims when rejected.

It’s “trans the gay away” in real time — and the consequences fall squarely on LGB people, who are then told to shut up in the name of inclusion. What “community” are we talking about anymore?
The fact that a (straight) asexual woman was selected to lead a Pride parade speaks volumes. What, exactly, is she representing — besides the erasure of the people Pride was meant to celebrate?

LivelyFinch · 03/06/2025 13:02

Bobbymoore123 · 03/06/2025 10:14

I'm sorry you had to acknowledge that gay people exist?

Next time keep your eyes closed when you open your post, if that proves too difficult then just grow up and don't get bothered by things which have absolutely no active influence on your life.

My last post was meant to include this quote!!

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LivelyFinch · 03/06/2025 13:01

I'm have a lot of gay friends, they work, pay taxes, get married just like any other person. If they are disabled, living in poverty, require help they will receive it via family, friends or charity.

Gay people are just normal members of society, they don't need any virtue signalling from a parcel delivery company.

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JohnnyRememberMe · 03/06/2025 12:53

WaffleParty · 03/06/2025 12:08

Maybe your DB would appreciate that trans people are fighting the same fight he was fighting in the 60s and show a bit more empathy.
The idea that trans people can be dismissed as just “men with leggings prancing about with erections” is deeply offensive.

In what way are trans people fighting the same fight as guys and lesbians?

GeneralPeter · 03/06/2025 12:44

tripleginandtonic · 03/06/2025 10:57

I agree. If it was as simple as treating everyone the same then there's no need for these months, unfortunately homophobia is still very much a problem. Celebrating one group doesn't take away from another.

The clash between gender-based rights and sex-based rights is well-documented. Celebrating one very demonstrably harmed the other.

But putting that aside: Jews have had a tough time of it, I’m sure you’ll agree. Would you have any concern about firms rebranding their apps en masse with a Star of David? Or a cross, or a crescent, or any other marker of identity or belief?

Once celebration of any sectional world view becomes socially enforced, it undermines the secular pluralism that a liberal democracy needs to function, and becomes a problem.

GeneralPeter · 03/06/2025 12:31

@Imnobody4

The way companies and schools ignored World Introvert Day is a disgrace, bigots.

The most defensible erasure. It’s what they would have wanted : )

TangenitalContrivences · 03/06/2025 12:28

yakkity · 03/06/2025 12:27

Yes. This

Yes. What?

TangenitalContrivences · 03/06/2025 12:28

WaffleParty · 03/06/2025 12:15

Most trans people just want to get on with their lives and have no impact on anyone else’s.

Yes but it's the loud ones pissing on statues that rub people up the wrong way isn't it?

yakkity · 03/06/2025 12:27

WaffleParty · 03/06/2025 10:32

Why is it suddenly considered acceptable to complain about Pride Month? It had been going for years.
Do you also whine about Black History Month. Mental Health Awareness Week, Dementia Awareness etc etc ?
We have a history of celebrating people who have had to/are struggling for equality or support and I’d say that’s something to be proud of.

Yes. This

AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 03/06/2025 12:26

lcakethereforeIam · 03/06/2025 11:17

Do they put rainbows on their Saudi branch?

I'm going to take a guess on no.

Last June, I spent a bit of time comparing and contrasting the behaviour of different national branches of various international corps. Not a single one demonstrated any solidarity on social media with the LGB community or the T+ community in middle eastern countries...

It would be much more meaningful and financially risky for these companies to take a stance in support of gay rights in other nations. That's why they don't. Businesses only associate themselves with the rainbow flag in any of its permutations in countries where the PR department thinks the fight for gay rights is done and dusted.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 03/06/2025 12:24

Bobbymoore123 · 03/06/2025 10:14

I'm sorry you had to acknowledge that gay people exist?

Next time keep your eyes closed when you open your post, if that proves too difficult then just grow up and don't get bothered by things which have absolutely no active influence on your life.

Which other groups are we required to "acknowledge exist" when getting stuff delivered?

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/06/2025 12:16

Apparently in the US gay and lesbian people surveyed recently feel they have more in common with straight people than trans people. And gay and lesbian people are considerably less likely than trans people to feel connected to a broader LGBT “community”. I imagine the same might happen here if asked. Interesting research.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2025/05/29/community-friends-and-lgbtq-spaces/

Half of gay or lesbian adults say they have at least a fair amount in common with people who are bisexual (50%). A similar share (51%) say they have a lot in common with people who are straight.
Fewer (28%) say they have a lot in common with people who are transgender.
These figures are based on gay and lesbian adults who are not transgender.

5. Community, friends and LGBTQ spaces

About a quarter of LGBTQ adults feel extremely or very connected to a broader LGBTQ community. Views vary by sexual orientation and gender identity, race and ethnicity, and political party.

https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2025/05/29/community-friends-and-lgbtq-spaces/

PrettyDamnCosmic · 03/06/2025 12:15

The idea that trans people can be dismissed as just “men with leggings prancing about with erections” is deeply offensive.

It's the men with leggings prancing about with erections who are deeply offensive. Why should anyone pander to this public fetish display?

WaffleParty · 03/06/2025 12:15

Most trans people just want to get on with their lives and have no impact on anyone else’s.

DragonRunor · 03/06/2025 12:12

WaffleParty · 03/06/2025 12:08

Maybe your DB would appreciate that trans people are fighting the same fight he was fighting in the 60s and show a bit more empathy.
The idea that trans people can be dismissed as just “men with leggings prancing about with erections” is deeply offensive.

If trans people were fighting for a place in society without impinging on other people’s rights, they would have so much support. You might want to consider the impact they are having on gay people’s rights before demanding their support

WaffleParty · 03/06/2025 12:08

TiredWife · 03/06/2025 11:31

My DB is gay and in his 60s and hates the Pride stuff now. He was part of the original movement in the 1980s when it really was about being comfortable being out, and campaigning for equality and acceptance.

He says all of his gay friends feel that has been achieved and they just want to get on with their lives without Pride constantly banging on about it as if they are some kind of different special group.

The 'T' has tainted Pride for me. All I see now is the grooming of children with dangerous gender ideology and adult men with erections prancing around in leggings. And when I see companies supporting it, it makes me question the judgement of those managers endorsing it and whether that's a business I want to support.
It's a small-scale, personal protest, but as far as possible I avoid spending money with businesses displaying heavy Pride branding in June.

Maybe your DB would appreciate that trans people are fighting the same fight he was fighting in the 60s and show a bit more empathy.
The idea that trans people can be dismissed as just “men with leggings prancing about with erections” is deeply offensive.

DragonRunor · 03/06/2025 12:04

StMarie4me · 03/06/2025 11:57

I’m sure they won’t miss your business when you stomp off in a mardy.

No stomp and no marry, just a quiet consumer choice - or does everything you do have to be performative?

TangenitalContrivences · 03/06/2025 12:00

StMarie4me · 03/06/2025 11:57

I’m sure they won’t miss your business when you stomp off in a mardy.

Since when do you have a choice of delivery company?

MorrisZapp · 03/06/2025 12:00

Bobbymoore123 · 03/06/2025 10:14

I'm sorry you had to acknowledge that gay people exist?

Next time keep your eyes closed when you open your post, if that proves too difficult then just grow up and don't get bothered by things which have absolutely no active influence on your life.

Gay people have existed throughout my entire life, I'm close friends with some of them. They really, truly don't need DPD to highlight their sexual orientation via the medium of ghastly overworked rainbows plastered on their stationery.

And we all know it isn't about gay people anyway.

HaddyAbrams · 03/06/2025 12:00

StMarie4me · 03/06/2025 11:52

Think they need to learn their history tbf

They are well aware of the history of pride TYVM.
Just unsure as to why Tesco/Waitrose/DPD et al need to advertise they are "gay friendly". They are a shop/delivery company. They need to sell/deliver things. Thats all.

It's performative rainbow washing.

BettyBooper · 03/06/2025 11:59

StMarie4me · 03/06/2025 11:52

Think they need to learn their history tbf

Well a look at Fred Sargent's x account shows he's not too enamoured by Pride Month as it stands now either...