LGBT Libdems demand puberty blockers for children, and no chemical castration

We still use folk(s) here in the arse end of rural Scotland, though it does vary by context -"how are your folks? " meaning how are your parents/grandparents etc. Otherwise it just refers to general people...

That statement aligning the LGBTQ++++ community to paedophilia and sex offenders is an own goal, as previously said, saying the quiet but our loud - aswell as being batshit!

Crap indeed.
I admire every female (and the odd male) politician who has stuck their necks out over the woo ideology.
It feels like all our middle aged politicians have transed into blue haired, unwashed student activists.
Gah.

This is the type of thing that has made me politically homeless.

LibDems…apparently batshit

Greens…also batshit and full of creepy weirdos

Labour…totally captured

Tory…I’m Scottish, it’s illegal to vote for them up here

SNP…will never vote for them again after the attempt to throw every woman and girl in this country under a very big bus

Reform…no words needed

This lot were at the centre of what happened to Natalie Bird in terms of bullying. Nothing was done because they pretty much controlled the LDs at the time.
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Their clearly ignoring anything Sir Trev has to say, he doesn't fit in with their narrative, I guess.
I'm also struck by the term, 'strike it down' that really sounds American, because that's not something our SC is suppose to do and never has been, but I think the USA SC has that sort of power.
Someone should point out to the LibDem Alphabet Mafia that they're suppose to be affiliated with a British political party. 🙄

I’m from Yorkshire and I’m going to keep saying folk as enough of our local dialect is disappearing as it is.

As the UK Supreme Court can only interpret legislation by Parliament rather than strike it down, the solution is new primary legislation that amends the Equality Act to clearly set out trans-inclusive definitions of ‘man’ and ‘woman’, as the original writers of that Act have said they intended

Say what, now?

Strangely the only time I use folks is when I say 'There's nowt as queer as folks', it's an oldy but useful, it comes from the days when queer meant touched in the head.
What goes around comes around because the proponents of Queer Theory are definitely touched in the head. 🤯
Any group of adults who want to castrate children, but think castrating the sexual predators of children is not civilized, are very much touched in the head.

Agree - why are they apparently suggesting that this is relevant to LGBT issues? It's very odd.

The statement demonstrates that they haven't the foggiest understanding of equality law.

If 'women' includes some men, it becomes a heterogenous group, and it is no longer possible to explain why they need any distinct rights, or find a comparator to explain why they have suffered unlawful discrimination.

Therefore the law will not be changed.

Yes, in Northern Ireland speech "folks" is something I'd associate with older, rural people, though I'm not immune from using it myself.

There's a definite thing in white American left wing circles of appropriating black modes of speech, hence the pervasive "folks" (and worse, "y'all"). What they don't seem to realise is that lots of African American speech is really Deep South speech transferred to cities across the country.

Hence the social justice subreddits full of very white people from very white cities like Portland or Madison who say things like "hi folks, I would like to know y'all's opinion on this" as if they were characters from Smokey and the Bandit.

Of course it's a thousand times cringier when white English social justice types copy the American style.

I'm delighted to be able to announce that my new inclusive dictionary will soon be in all the shops and is the hot contender for this year's must-have Christmas gift.

Unlike all existing dictionaries on the market - which are bigoted and prejudiced, every last one of them - it will contain pretty much all of the same words, except the approved definition for every single word will be "Whatever you want it to mean".

Every person in the English-speaking world will love and embrace it (except possibly Susie Dent) and there will be no losers at all anymore.

Presumably because the cutesy word "folks" or "folx" conjures up images of people who are nice and vulnerable and a little bit quirky, rather than Sarah Jane Baker or Isla Bryson.

It's worth saying that the LGBT lid Dems took Amy Challoner particularly under their wing after his suspension and defection from the Green Party for a lack of safeguarding.

This group are an affiliate group within the lib dem federation. They hold a lot of power as many of them hold executive positions within the central lid dem party and within influential LD cliques.

They have always been particularly batshit and extreme in their views.

What is their obsession with the word ‘folks’? It always sounds quite juvenile to me, do they think it softens the blow of their obvious misogyny and homophobia?

I am ColourMystic's complete lack of surprise.

Good grief, who is it in the LD party who has an interest in children being held in pre-puberty past the age of consent; and in ensuring women and children in a state of undress are available to any man who wants to join them?

This question should be put to all LDs on socials, over and over again. And Davey should be made to answer it by the media.

They're an absolute disgrace.

Also “bodily autonomy” is a slippery one. It’s always wheeled out to suggest minors should be able to decide to take puberty blockers/hormones or have bits chopped off them but these calls never seem to include demanding that children are allowed to drive, smoke, drink vodka, get tattoos or wander across motorways if they want to.

Likewise, though I think chemical castration is a big can of worms that needs very detailed consideration and may not be right, we do put people in prison for crimes, and in secure hospitals if they are very dangerous. We do have sectioning, arrest, criminalisation or control of various drugs, and so on - with good reason. “Bodily autonomy” like “free speech” is not some unquestionable 100% freedom to do whatever you like and there is no reason it should automatically be awarded to minors just because it sounds righteous.

This is a bugbear of mine as well. We have a perfectly serviceable gender neutral plural in widespread use in English. Whenever I hear someone use Folk, it sounds like compelled speech, because that's what it is - it's tied to academic and political spaces that see themselves as radical/leftist/progressive and is used by people who could perfectly happily be saying 'people' if it weren't for the fear of being publicly corrected.

And absolutely re talking about paedophiles under the LGBTQ++ and some extra + apparently. The lack of clear thinking and application of morality is worrying. I recon the thought process is something like “Everyone who the government/powers that be want to chemically castrate must be essentially Alan Turing, being oppressed for their sexuality. But if the government/powers that be don’t want to chemically castrate gay minors, that’s because they’re anti-LGBTQ+++ so they must be opposed!”

Or maybe it’s just an unconscious, traditional association of paedophilia with homosexuality, so therefore LGBTQ+, sacred and must get whatever they want.

People are terrified - or too stupid - to just sift through it all and ask what the evidence is, what the risks and harms are, what the justifications are and what actually makes sense, instead of just bleating the most “progressive” take they can find with 3 seconds thought.

(I also have doubts about chemical castration for various reasons so not saying I disagree with them on that front, but they haven’t thought it through at all… as is so typical of the woke - and the Lib Dem woke are up there with the Greens for extreme examples of this).

The Monster Raving Loony Party would consider this lot batshit crazy

Re “trans folk/folks/folx” it’s always REALLY grated on me. I’ve heard some, usually older, rural Scottish people use “folk” routinely just to mean people and of course it’s American usage as well. But the LGBTQ/trans usage seems designed to work like the use of “community” except more so, to make us envision a troupe of Quaker-esque happy friends sitting peacefully in a bucolic idyll who are all absolutely lovely and innocently well-meaning, and of course dreadfully marginalised and oppressed.

Lots of people who have been in the trans “community” talk about how it can be very toxic, hyper-sexualised and controlling, often prioritising male sexual desire at the expense of lesbians and trans men, and ostracising or turning on anyone who questions anything. It’s also not a unified community as there are trans people who disagree with gender ideology and deep schisms between different groups.

That’s before you even get to the elevated levels of sex offending, vicious threats and incitements to violence, no-platforming/cancelling/hounding etc etc etc. None of this means there aren’t some lovely, genuinely well-meaning and harmless “trans folx” but as a movement it’s far from folksy.