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SionnachRuadh · 02/06/2025 08:11

There are young(ish) people on YouTube who feel they have to start their video with a 5 minute denunciation of JKR before they, with obvious joy, show off all their HP merch.

It's clearly something that they've been taught they need to do to stay in the Party's good graces.

KurtansCurtain · 02/06/2025 08:08

onwardsup4 · 02/06/2025 08:06

If young people hate her it’s down to stupid adults and the media giving them disinformation. My 13 year old daughter who actually thinks the trans stuff is nonsense still thinks that JKR has said “some horrible things”. Ill continue trying to teach her otherwise

Just ask her what’s she said and ask her to cite a source

onwardsup4 · 02/06/2025 08:06

If young people hate her it’s down to stupid adults and the media giving them disinformation. My 13 year old daughter who actually thinks the trans stuff is nonsense still thinks that JKR has said “some horrible things”. Ill continue trying to teach her otherwise

KurtansCurtain · 02/06/2025 08:03

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:29

I mean, this is also bonkers and they would have been better off making a donation to one of her charities.

That wouldn’t have put the game at the top of the bestseller lists - I believe it was about sending a message to the sort of people who object to JK Rowling.

just looked it up, it sold 12 million copies in its first 2 weeks across ps5, whatever the equivalent in Xbox is and PC

HaveYouActuallyDoneAnyWashingThisWeekMum · 02/06/2025 07:53

Excellent 😁

Shortshriftandlethal · 02/06/2025 07:52

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:39

It's the kind of phrase which betrays the fact that the author of this piece is completely uninformed.

It shows that he thinks it is common ground that everyone has a gender which either matches or doesn't match their biological sex, and that Rowling's position is that people should perform the gender that matches their biological sex.

He doesn't realise her position is actually more like, "Gender is harmful made up bullshit. Do what you want, but sometimes sex matters."

They think they are on the side of the oppressed and against the big, bad dictator. And of course dctators are always fundamentalist. One issue is that they cannot see their own totalitarianism.

TheNightingalesStarling · 02/06/2025 07:46

I thought she had moved on to being racist now?

Well that's the impression some media is trying to give (apparently over the casting of Snape) but everyone actually involved in denying it...

I don't think many people can stand any woman being successful.

SootherSue · 02/06/2025 07:41

SionnachRuadh · 02/06/2025 06:40

Hollywood accounting is notoriously obscure and sometimes it's hard to know what the budget really is. But the production budget doesn't cover marketing and distribution costs, so a usual rule of thumb is that a film has to make 2.5 times its budget at the box office before the studio starts to turn a profit.

There's a big problem at the moment of budgets becoming too bloated, especially with so much investment in the superhero genre that audiences are starting to tire of. Some blockbusters (the last Indiana Jones) were so ridiculously expensive that even if audiences were interested in seeing them, it was almost mathematically impossible for them to be profitable.

The whole thing's overdue for a correction. For some reason, nobody makes mid-budget films any more, like romcoms that are pretty cheap once you've paid your stars. Even Disney can only absorb so many mega-budget flops.

I've heard it's because good mid-budget films couldn't deliver anywhere near the same return as a very mediocre big budget movie. Now that big budget flops are rolling in, and the popular franchises driving them have been squeezed dry, there seems to FINALLY be a course correction underway.

Shortshriftandlethal · 02/06/2025 07:40

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:27

I don't know what has happened to Americans in my generation but they just seem like such immature babies. I know people my age in the UK who don't agree with JK Rowling but they don't feel the need to talk about it all the time, or continue to consume her work whilst participating in a bizarre public ritual where they have to say how much they hate her before they're allowed to continue consuming her work.

The Harry Potter books are great, but at the end of the day they are for children, and if you're an adult and you believe that JK Rowling is an evil bigot, why not just move on?

Even I don't read the Harry Potter books anymore because I've read them so many times and my children aren't old enough for them yet. Making being a Potterhead a defining feature of your personality is a bit weird (but completely harmless). Continuing to make it a defining feature of your personality when you hate the author is just bonkers.

That's identity politics for you. When you step into, and attempt to inhabit, any particular 'identity' you find you have to be consistent and coherent and pure in your practice...for the reason that identities are entirely social and tribal and you have to conform with all of the precepts in order to be accepted.

Tana433 · 02/06/2025 07:39

I have no words to explain how much i admire this woman. She is a complete legend and im so grateful we have her on our side.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:39

PlasticAcrobat · 02/06/2025 07:31

First time I've heard the term 'gender fundamentalism' used to describe opposition to gender ideology. Real Alice in Wonderland stuff.

It's the kind of phrase which betrays the fact that the author of this piece is completely uninformed.

It shows that he thinks it is common ground that everyone has a gender which either matches or doesn't match their biological sex, and that Rowling's position is that people should perform the gender that matches their biological sex.

He doesn't realise her position is actually more like, "Gender is harmful made up bullshit. Do what you want, but sometimes sex matters."

Chicheguevara · 02/06/2025 07:37

I am very happy that her cancellation is going badly. She’s brilliant, speaks up for women and I think she is great.

Shortshriftandlethal · 02/06/2025 07:36

storminabuttercup · 02/06/2025 07:07

I always laugh when I hear people say they’ve boycotted Harry Potter, surely if you’ve already bought the books by just not watching the films when they are on the tv makes very little difference to JK?

i also heard ‘all young people hate her’ except the ones in the new films? And the millions that will watch them?

Harry Potter is a tremendus phenomenon and is not in decline at all. Everywhere you go around the world shops and institutions are full of Harry Potter marketing, merchandise and fan material.

We've just returned from Istanbul and all of the above is true; and in one restaurant we ate in our bill was presented to us inside the cover of a Harry Potter DVD.

PlasticAcrobat · 02/06/2025 07:31

First time I've heard the term 'gender fundamentalism' used to describe opposition to gender ideology. Real Alice in Wonderland stuff.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:29

KurtansCurtain · 02/06/2025 07:28

People were buying multiple copies of the game to spite people like this - pretty sure that’s part of the reason it sold so well. As well as being a great game of course!

I mean, this is also bonkers and they would have been better off making a donation to one of her charities.

KurtansCurtain · 02/06/2025 07:28

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:09

I once witnessed a lot of hand wringing about this by a group of thirty something Americans who really really wanted to buy Hogwarts Legacy but hate JKR.

In the end they bought it but donated an equivalent amount to trans rights charities, as if it was fucking carbon offsetting. Clowns.

People were buying multiple copies of the game to spite people like this - pretty sure that’s part of the reason it sold so well. As well as being a great game of course!

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:27

storminabuttercup · 02/06/2025 07:15

Haha idiots

I’ve a colleague who once told me they’d rather not hear Harry Potter or JK mentioned as they dislike her so much due to her views…. Not just not discuss her but nobody else can. ODFOD

I don't know what has happened to Americans in my generation but they just seem like such immature babies. I know people my age in the UK who don't agree with JK Rowling but they don't feel the need to talk about it all the time, or continue to consume her work whilst participating in a bizarre public ritual where they have to say how much they hate her before they're allowed to continue consuming her work.

The Harry Potter books are great, but at the end of the day they are for children, and if you're an adult and you believe that JK Rowling is an evil bigot, why not just move on?

Even I don't read the Harry Potter books anymore because I've read them so many times and my children aren't old enough for them yet. Making being a Potterhead a defining feature of your personality is a bit weird (but completely harmless). Continuing to make it a defining feature of your personality when you hate the author is just bonkers.

SionnachRuadh · 02/06/2025 07:23

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:09

I once witnessed a lot of hand wringing about this by a group of thirty something Americans who really really wanted to buy Hogwarts Legacy but hate JKR.

In the end they bought it but donated an equivalent amount to trans rights charities, as if it was fucking carbon offsetting. Clowns.

There's a YouTuber I used to watch, a gay American guy who did pop culture commentary. He was pretty engaging and knowledgeable. I stopped watching him during lockdown, and I still remember the moment I unsubscribed.

He'd posted this video about being allowed out of the house for his one hour daily walk, and he really wanted to wear his Hogwarts scarf and backpack, but he didn't want to platform hate, and he went on and on and on about this terrible dilemma.

My first reaction was: Jesus, you're in your thirties and you're still so obsessed with Harry Potter that you're beating yourself up about your Hogwarts scarf?

My second reaction was to just find it incredibly sad, because if you'd watched him during lockdown you'd have seen his mental health visibly deteriorate week by week, and I didn't want to watch that any more.

I bet he's one of those guys who did the trans offset.

storminabuttercup · 02/06/2025 07:15

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:09

I once witnessed a lot of hand wringing about this by a group of thirty something Americans who really really wanted to buy Hogwarts Legacy but hate JKR.

In the end they bought it but donated an equivalent amount to trans rights charities, as if it was fucking carbon offsetting. Clowns.

Haha idiots

I’ve a colleague who once told me they’d rather not hear Harry Potter or JK mentioned as they dislike her so much due to her views…. Not just not discuss her but nobody else can. ODFOD

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:09

storminabuttercup · 02/06/2025 07:07

I always laugh when I hear people say they’ve boycotted Harry Potter, surely if you’ve already bought the books by just not watching the films when they are on the tv makes very little difference to JK?

i also heard ‘all young people hate her’ except the ones in the new films? And the millions that will watch them?

I once witnessed a lot of hand wringing about this by a group of thirty something Americans who really really wanted to buy Hogwarts Legacy but hate JKR.

In the end they bought it but donated an equivalent amount to trans rights charities, as if it was fucking carbon offsetting. Clowns.

storminabuttercup · 02/06/2025 07:07

I always laugh when I hear people say they’ve boycotted Harry Potter, surely if you’ve already bought the books by just not watching the films when they are on the tv makes very little difference to JK?

i also heard ‘all young people hate her’ except the ones in the new films? And the millions that will watch them?

Motnight · 02/06/2025 07:06

https://www.wearelumos.org/how-you-can-help/donate/

Just in case anyone fancies giving to a brilliant cause and / or dinner with JK

"I’ll match the total sum donated to Lumos between first offer and midnight Monday.

And once my three fellow diners have been chosen, we’ll have a vote on whether we’re having KFC or going to Il Portico."

Donate

Your donation will make a world of difference to the lives of children we serve to keep in safe and loving families.

https://www.wearelumos.org/how-you-can-help/donate/

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 02/06/2025 07:01

Dear Matt Craig (whoever you are),

  1. She doesn't post "in support of gender fundamentalism" (wtf?), she posts in support of women's rights.
  2. She doesn't post about "trans issues", she posts about women's issues.
  3. She hasn't published five Strike novels, she has published seven, soon to be eight.

Call yourself a journalist?

NotBadConsidering · 02/06/2025 06:59

Rowling posts several times a day in support of gender fundamentalism

Er, no you idiot, she opposes such ideas, that gender and its stereotypes fundamentally defines who we are. That’s trans activists.

CatOnAHotRadiator · 02/06/2025 06:57

NutellaEllaElla · 02/06/2025 05:58

I’d love to know how $400 million in box office revenue, against a film making budget of $250 million, constitutes a flop. I’m not arguing it, I have no knowledge what the revenue translates to, did it cover costs? Crap journalism.

In HP terms / major franchise terms it probably is a flop, it’s not even earned the same again as spent. But this was the film that came out after the Johnny Depp issues and recasting and the franchise with Ezra Miller and his controversy.

The reduced earnings were much more likely to do with those men and their association than JK. There is no evidence anywhere in her earnings profile that her support for women’s rights has dimmed love of her work in any real way.

Im really pleased to see that she’s still doing so well. It’s a nice big fuck you to those who would cancel her for standing up for women and girls.

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