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Beach Box Brighton cancels women only sauna session and apologises to TRAs

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WallaceinAnderland · 01/06/2025 17:20

But the exclusive LGBTQ only session is allowed to go ahead of course.

Beach Box Brighton cancels women only sauna session and apologises to TRAs
Beach Box Brighton cancels women only sauna session and apologises to TRAs
Beach Box Brighton cancels women only sauna session and apologises to TRAs
Beach Box Brighton cancels women only sauna session and apologises to TRAs
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Treaclewell · 03/06/2025 09:08

I know that this repeats, but it is the blindness to the majority caste that gets me.
"We want Beach Box to continue to be a space where everyone feels welcome and we’ll keep doing the work to make sure it feels that way.”
I feel the shades of "1066 and all that"'s discussion of the Magna Carta "excapt the common people" only in this case, "except the real women".

PriOn1 · 02/06/2025 15:06

Mmmnotsure · 01/06/2025 21:54

I must say I was - intrigued - by the location decision :)

As you say, should be fun.

Looks like we’re all going to have an interesting experience!

What a mess this whole situation is though. Neither sex is guaranteed a single sex space. Both are equally discriminated against. I think a lawyer is needed to parse this one.

RooBarbRooBarbara · 02/06/2025 07:44

BundleBoogie · 01/06/2025 20:15

I regularly thank my lucky stars that I live a really really long way from Brighton. I recently met a couple trying to move away from Brighton. They were very motivated to move. I wonder why.

Because you need a special rainbow glitter passport to be a true, right thinking Brightonian. Not to mention ££££s in the bank to afford a house and to keep you in sheepskin Birkenstocks and oat milk from Waitrose.

mycatcontrolsmewith5g · 02/06/2025 07:24

Brighton has a sizeable cohort of gender critical feminists though. Salon sisters are great and plough on regardless x

TakingMyChancesWithTheRabbits · 02/06/2025 05:15

Hmm, there's a "men and trans men" session on Thursday 26th June. I'd suggest a Man Friday Thursday event, but it's 35quid each!

CaptainFuture · 01/06/2025 22:01

LeftieRightsHoarder · 01/06/2025 20:53

Oh no! Brighton used to be such a fun place. A bit sleazy, a bit shabby, easy-going, daring, a little bit dangerous, a lot of fun. Now it’s all overpriced tat and mind what you say.

Does the traliban turn everything to shit?

Seems so. I thought these days in order to enter Brighton never mind live there you had to fully encapsulate TWAW, they are the MOST speshulest beautiful peoplezz eva, I as a lowly cis woman, knows my lowly place and I will never ever be as delicate, beautiful and feminine as they are?...

Mmmnotsure · 01/06/2025 21:54

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 01/06/2025 21:29

Filia is going to be entertaining this year...

I must say I was - intrigued - by the location decision :)

As you say, should be fun.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 01/06/2025 21:29

Filia is going to be entertaining this year...

SionnachRuadh · 01/06/2025 21:26

If it was just a matter of not being able to have a sauna session without cocks involved, I might just shrug and accept that Brighton gonna Brighton.

It's the North Korean hostage style apology that's the really bad part. What, do you people think it's still 2018?

ChocolateGanache · 01/06/2025 21:21

How fucking surprising!

Lavendersong · 01/06/2025 20:57

No idea why on earth they can’t have a women only event and add on a women icl trans event
would have been much easier

LeftieRightsHoarder · 01/06/2025 20:53

Oh no! Brighton used to be such a fun place. A bit sleazy, a bit shabby, easy-going, daring, a little bit dangerous, a lot of fun. Now it’s all overpriced tat and mind what you say.

Does the traliban turn everything to shit?

littlbrowndog · 01/06/2025 20:48

SapphosRock · 01/06/2025 20:46

This is a real shame. I love that sauna and use it a lot.

Last week the TRA tantrum was about women having a consultation on women’s health in the library. Before that the tantrum was about lesbians wanting to celebrate same-sex attraction at Pride. This week it’s about women wanting a peaceful sauna without being ogled by men.

I wonder what next week’s tantrum will be 🙄

Cutted up pears

SapphosRock · 01/06/2025 20:46

This is a real shame. I love that sauna and use it a lot.

Last week the TRA tantrum was about women having a consultation on women’s health in the library. Before that the tantrum was about lesbians wanting to celebrate same-sex attraction at Pride. This week it’s about women wanting a peaceful sauna without being ogled by men.

I wonder what next week’s tantrum will be 🙄

Grammarnut · 01/06/2025 20:30

Everyone welcome except women apparently. I wonder how the LGBT session went.

BundleBoogie · 01/06/2025 20:15

RooBarbRooBarbara · 01/06/2025 17:43

You couldn’t pay me to live in Brighton. Full of the smuggest wokiest wankers imaginable.

I regularly thank my lucky stars that I live a really really long way from Brighton. I recently met a couple trying to move away from Brighton. They were very motivated to move. I wonder why.

Crouton19 · 01/06/2025 20:11

But it wasn't a cis only event! Transmen could have gone along as well! God I'm so fed up of these idiots.

DuesToTheDirt · 01/06/2025 19:55

"promoting or hosting a cis-only event goes against everything we believe in"

"We want Beach Box to continue to be a space where everyone feels welcome."

Everyone, that is, except women who can tell the difference between men and women. What a bunch of wankers.

TheOtherRaven · 01/06/2025 19:55

We are so, so sorry that women have legal rights and this displeases you <grovel>

Sod theyet more 'LGBT inclusion training' which very obviously has been men's rights training, some women's groups need to get in there and teach them about actual diversity, stat. They have major issues.

BonfireLady · 01/06/2025 19:48

LonginesPrime · 01/06/2025 17:45

They can’t.

I guess that’s why they haven’t said ‘only’ - so they can argue it’s a session aimed at women and TW (bc they have so much in common) rather than exclusively for these two groups, but they obviously can’t exclude other men.

Exactly this.

I hope someone sends in a complaint and a Letter Before Action.

This could be either from a man who for direct sex discrimination (like in the WI thread) or from a woman for indirect discrimination (because there is no single sex facility available).

Given the route the spa has gone down - to create a mixed-sex space which excludes some but not all males - I assume a man challenging them for direct sex discrimination would be more successful.

Edited to add: IMNAL but I don't think the use or absence of the word "only" would change this.

Viviennemary · 01/06/2025 17:47

The whole thing does sound a bit bonkers.

theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 01/06/2025 17:46

Queer isn't a protected characteristic 😡

What about the transmen? 😡

And yes, their TW-inclusive session is illegal sex-discrimination. Another job for Mr Cats?

Stepfordian · 01/06/2025 17:45

Is there a script for these apologies? they’re so grovelling it makes me feel sick, especially in the context of a sauna where single sex sessions make sense, how could anyone be offended by that?

LonginesPrime · 01/06/2025 17:45

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 01/06/2025 17:33

No, they're not complying with the law. On what basis are they now excluding men who don't identify as women?

They can’t.

I guess that’s why they haven’t said ‘only’ - so they can argue it’s a session aimed at women and TW (bc they have so much in common) rather than exclusively for these two groups, but they obviously can’t exclude other men.

RooBarbRooBarbara · 01/06/2025 17:43

You couldn’t pay me to live in Brighton. Full of the smuggest wokiest wankers imaginable.