Flags removed ahead of Pride event = hate crime?

I don't think that Suggestions understands that the truth (human beings cannot change sex) is the root of why I have never believed that TWAW/TMAM. It is that truth that made it possible for me to look at gender identity ideology and see huge issues with it, including the homophobia.

Suggestions needs to understand that there is nothing that they can say that can change my mind. Their words are meaningless, as human beings cannot change sex, and I am not going to lie.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZNdBrgWrn/ just one example

No more intrusive than the CEO of Stonewall (not known to have ever had a sexual relationship with a man herself) saying that lesbians who don't consider trans women as potential sexual partners are akin to sexual racists.

Knowing whether that poster has ever had a heterosexual sexual relationship herself would help us to understand how she actually defines a lesbian.

If you call yourself a lesbian and also say that trans women are women and can be lesbians, it follows that you should be open to dating one. (And it also follows that your definition of the word lesbian isn't the same as most people's.) If you're not open to dating one then you clearly don't actually believe they are women. (In which case you are untrustworthy because you say things you don't mean.)

I haven't insisted on men being anything.

i have insisted I am not policing other people's stated identities. If that way forward is good enough for the best countries in the world for women, who have introduced gender self-ID and remain the best countries in the world for women after doing so, it's good enough for me.

Wow intrusive much ... What does that have to do with anything and the poster certainly doesn't have to explain her sexuality, preferences or sexual history on a public forum

This is the crux of the issue.

If someone says a male person can be a woman, we literally cannot trust anything else they say, because we know they have a habit of using words to mean their exact opposite.

Sorry - my fault - I was clarifying whether that poster was born female and claiming to be a lesbian (ie a lesbian) or born male, claiming to be a woman and a lesbian (ie not a lesbian!)

Every time you post on a thread you add homophobia @suggestionsplease1 with your insistence on men being lesbians. There wouldn’t be any homophobia here if people didn’t push that ideology.

Well yeah, when there's a thread dedicated to minimising and defending acts of homophobia don't be too surprised about about that.

There shall always be at least one thread to call FWR posters baddies, it's like rule zero of the board.

I am a female born lesbian

You’re a lesbian.

We don’t talk about canine dogs so no need for superfluous words. A lesbian is a woman. Was born female and will always be female. It’s very simple.

No. I am a female born lesbian.

But according to the ideology you support, males who think of themselves as always been a woman describe themselves as female born, and in your ideology males can be lesbians.

So your assertion of what you are is meaningless by your own definitions and only accurate if you use those that acknowledge a person’s sex. These are your homophobic rules, not ours.

Yes it did and the whole of the 'trans' cult are resurrecting it, when Lesbian's are told that they are 'transphobic' for not accepting men in their dating pool, it's turning back the clock to the days when they were told they just haven't met the right man yet. Forcing women who are only sexually attracted to other women to let men into their spaces because the man 'identifies' as a women is highly homophobic.
You may identify as a lesbian, but if you accept men as lesbians then you've bumped yourself out of L and into B, you are the homophobe within your own movement.

Do they? Can you give an example?

I’m so glad. I mean, I did wonder why someone would go onto a site they hate to berate people but as you are sure your mental health is robust, then my worries are allayed. I’m glad you’re not one of those people who can’t bear people having different opinions so has to invade their spaces to scold and harrass them. 😉

People who perpetrate hate crimes against certain races make the same defence. It doesn't work.

Thank you for your concern for my mental health, but actually you'll be relieved to know if is pretty robust 😄 I think it would be worse if I stayed silent.

Well who is it then? Spit it out. Because it's not gender critical feminists either.

Personally I think that what Nancy Kelley said about lesbians was pretty hateful.

Don't be ridiculous.

Are you saying that homophobia never existed before the 'trans cult', as you put it? I can assure you it absolutely did, in much stronger and pervasive forms.

Mainstream awareness and acceptance of trans issues correlates with increasingly positive attitudes to gay people as well.

We know exactly who is fuelling hostility towards us, and it's not trans people.

Again, if it’s upsetting you so much, why are you on here? I don’t go on trans Reddit as I know the misogyny and homophobia as well as the palpable hate towards women would upset me and affect my wellbeing. It just comes across as you coming onto a board to scold and berate people who refuse to agree with your opinions. That may not be your intention, but that is what it looks like to a relatively new member of these boards.

Have you ever had a sexual relationship with a trans woman?

Homophobic attitudes and environments lead to increased hate crimes against gay people. It's just that simple.

The biggest driver of homophobia is the 'trans' cult, it's an ideology that demands men who identify as women, who are sexually attracted to women, be accepted by women who are only attracted to women as a lesbian . That's just the same as saying a women is only a lesbian because 'she hasn't met the right man yet', for someone who claims to be fighting homophobia you should be able to recognise the homophobia that's inherent in the 'trans' ideology.
Why don't you?
Especially as you consider yourself to be a lesbian????

Absolutely nobody is condoning any of that.

You, however, seem to actively delight in creating the same environment of hostility and intimidation for gender critical feminists.

We haven't had the police investigating the removal of our flags from our events by persons unknown. We have been banned from wearing our colours, questioned by the police for putting up stickers and owning feminist books, and physically assaulted at our own events without the police doing a damn thing about it.

We have had to "hide ourselves" for fear that if we say out loud that women don't have penises it could be career ending for us.

Crimes against us aren't even considered hate crimes.

Where is your outrage about that?

No. I am a female born lesbian.

Anyone can go find my first posts from years ago if they have any doubt on that, as I joined to get advice on a F-F breakup I was going through and didn't find this transphobic space until a lot later.

Can I clarify - from reading the thread it seems that you are:

• born male
• identify now as trans / woman

I am confused if so how you have a voice in lesbian movements anywhere as surely by definition and as we saw recently, supported in law… lesbians are born female, identify as female but are sexually attracted to other women.