Flags removed ahead of Pride event = hate crime?

The full entire card is 'you don't want us to eXissssT!!!'.

"Homophobia and transphobia are interconnected and stem from the same root. They arise from authoritarian attitudes that believe in rigid gender binaries and actions taken to try to enforce that on others."

The trans movement is based on rigid gender binaries. For instance there are many boys who think that because they like "chick flicks" they must be female.

And whilst the idea that transphobia and homophobia were interconnected (essentially homosexual individuals transitioning to the opposite sex), it doesn't work when you have heterosexual males transitioning, and a few decades ago the gay community wanted nothing to do with heterosexual male cross-dressers.

You, and others, are engaged in a process of encouraging vulnerable minorities to turn against each other. We know this, we're not stupid, we have read the 'divide and conquer' tactics, we know the fraudulent narratives that you spin and regurgitate on boards like this, and we stand united against the hate.

We are not ‘encouraging vulnerable minorities to turn on each other’.

We are pointing out that one not vulnerable minority is actively harming the vulnerable minority. The trans community has ALREADY turned on LGB people and has been causing harm for years. You just can’t see it yet.

The big question is, you presumably (given your stated views) think it was ok for a man who identifies as a woman to run workshops in how to get past the ‘cotton ceiling’ ie. how to rape coerce lesbians to have sex with men. Yet you claim to be a lesbian. What will it take?

No. I am a female born lesbian.

Anyone can go find my first posts from years ago if they have any doubt on that, as I joined to get advice on a F-F breakup I was going through and didn't find this transphobic space until a lot later.

Unknowingly then, you are.

But if you know full well that that flag representing trans the gay away and committing physical violence against women - which is exactly what that flag represents, then yes, you are.

It's a Mens Rights movement flag and a homophobic flag. There is no excuse for any decent, warm-blooded, humane human being to wave that hate and violence flag. Ever. Ever.

Is it really strange that it is countries where women have the most rights that are the countries where men push for self ID? Do youn think there might be reasons men don’t demand to be treated like women in Afghanistan?

The fact that self-ID is most prevalent in countries where women have been granted human rights simply shows what a luxury belief this is.

Homophobia and transphobia are interconnected and stem from the same root. They arise from authoritarian attitudes that believe in rigid gender binaries and actions taken to try to enforce that on others.

Gay and trans people often visibly step outside those boundaries, and when people spit at us in the street, tear down our flags, harass us etc, believe me they are not handwringing whether it is transphobia or homophobia that they are acting on.

If you want to tie yourself up in identity riddles that is up to you - the hate is coming to all LGBT people, and it does not bother itself to establish trans, gay, bi identity, it just perceives contravention of binary.

You, and others, are engaged in a process of encouraging vulnerable minorities to turn against each other. We know this, we're not stupid, we have read the 'divide and conquer' tactics, we know the fraudulent narratives that you spin and regurgitate on boards like this, and we stand united against the hate.

You will see thousands upon thousands of lesbians matching in Pride parades this summer.

And as you have been told over and over again (and you're still not humiliated by your defeat), CORRELATION DOES NOT EQUAL CAUSATION. In deed and in fact, because those countries have misogynistic policies, it makes sense they are doing well economically. Suppressing women has that effect.

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You know transgender identities poll stably at less than 1% of populations, right?

And that transwomen score poorly in all measures covered in those indices, meaning that they would bring down the average scores for women rather than bring them up, if they are included in the category women.

Or are you pretending that 20-30% of people who have M on their birth certificates are suddenly stating they are F for shits and giggles or something? 🤣 These are pretty sensible, respected countries - what would make you think that?

Why are you putting words in my mouth?

I am not interested in policing anyone's identities.

As I have already said, many times before, the countries which score highest for women's equality and wellbeing are not policing identities either.

They are demonstrating, year after year, that they stay at the top of the tables for women, long after introducing policies of gender self ID.

You can bet your bottom dollar that they are not myopically obsessed like you, but are getting on with the real business of improving women's lives.

Because transphobia is strongly linked with homophobia, and the people motivated by one are usually motivated by the other.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226589320_Gender_Differences_in_Correlates_of_Homophobia_and_Transphobia

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/casp.851

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-023-00879-z

Homophobia and transphobia are interconnected and stem from the same root. They arise from authoritarian attitudes that believe in rigid gender binaries and actions taken to try to enforce that on others.

Gay and trans people often visibly step outside those boundaries, and when people spit at us in the street, tear down our flags, harass us etc, believe me they are not handwringing whether it is transphobia or homophobia that they are acting on.

If you want to tie yourself up in identity riddles that is up to you - the hate is coming to all LGBT people, and it does not bother itself to establish trans, gay, bi identity, it just perceives contravention of binary.

You, and others, are engaged in a process of encouraging vulnerable minorities to turn against each other. We know this, we're not stupid, we have read the 'divide and conquer' tactics, we know the fraudulent narratives that you spin and regurgitate on boards like this, and we stand united against the hate.

You will see thousands upon thousands of lesbians matching in Pride parades this summer.

Homophobia and transphobia are interconnected and stem from the same root. They arise from authoritarian attitudes that believe in rigid gender binaries and actions taken to try to enforce that on others.

Gay and trans people often visibly step outside those boundaries, and when people spit at us in the street, tear down our flags, harass us etc, believe me they are not handwringing whether it is transphobia or homophobia that they are acting on.

If you want to tie yourself up in identity riddles that is up to you - the hate is coming to all LGBT people, and it does not bother itself to establish trans, gay, bi identity, it just perceives contravention of binary.

You, and others, are engaged in a process of encouraging vulnerable minorities to turn against each other. We know this, we're not stupid, we have read the 'divide and conquer' tactics, we know the fraudulent narratives that you spin and regurgitate on boards like this, and we stand united against the hate.

You will see thousands upon thousands of lesbians matching in Pride parades this summer.

Homophobia and transphobia are interconnected and stem from the same root. They arise from authoritarian attitudes that believe in rigid gender binaries and actions taken to try to enforce that on others.

Gay and trans people often visibly step outside those boundaries, and when people spit at us in the street, tear down our flags, harass us etc, believe me they are not handwringing whether it is transphobia or homophobia that they are acting on.

If you want to tie yourself up in identity riddles that is up to you - the hate is coming to all LGBT people, and it does not bother itself to establish trans, gay, bi identity, it just perceives contravention of binary.

You, and others, are engaged in a process of encouraging vulnerable minorities to turn against each other. We know this, we're not stupid, we have read the 'divide and conquer' tactics, we know the fraudulent narratives that you spin and regurgitate on boards like this, and we stand united against the hate.

You will see thousands upon thousands of lesbians matching in Pride parades this summer.

And I think most people can see the lie of the land and where the homophobia exists here.

I refuse to fall for a trap set by someone who mistakenly believes that definitions comprised of inherently finite and limited language can ever encapsulate the complexity of lived lives.

You’re accusing people of homophobia while refusing to say what the definitions of lesbian and homophobia are, because you know to do so will either:

a) reveal your own homophobia by using a gender ideology definition or
b) have to admit that men can’t be lesbians and undo your own belief system.

So you say you don’t “insist”. But you insist on making sure the homophobia of your ideology stays hidden.