Flags removed ahead of Pride event = hate crime?

Tbh I would happily ban every flag. Bloody tribalism.

Yes they have. They see your homophobia plain as day. In your world men can be lesbians. Men can be in lesbian WhatsApp groups. Refusing to agree that men can be lesbians is transphobia to you.

Absolutely the general Mumsnet reader grasps this puzzle. I just think it’s fun to repeatedly remind you of the homophobic hypocritical ideology you support.

I think the general Mumsnet reader has grasped this puzzle already, and sees these posts for exactly what they are.

This is a deeply depressing thread.
Homophobia is alive and well here.

Well that doesn’t make sense being a one way street, because your homophobia seems to exempt you from transphobia, and one of the perceived actions of transphobia is to be not homophobic.

You’re saying refusing to be homophobic is transphobic, but if you’re homophobic that makes you transphobic too? So that makes you transphobic, doesn’t it?

I think we are going to need those definitions of lesbian, gay, and homophobia to make sense of this puzzle.

Exactly,

Christ alive it's so exhausting....its been exhausting since 2020.....

When will this weird woke competitive nightmare ever end?

Are you aware that lesbian women have been kicked out of Pride events for asserting their sexual orientation?

Because transphobia is strongly linked with homophobia, and the people motivated by one are usually motivated by the other.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/226589320_Gender_Differences_in_Correlates_of_Homophobia_and_Transphobia

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/casp.851

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13178-023-00879-z

Is that the ‘royal we’?

I’m sure you’d like to speak for all lesbians and gay men but it’s very clear that you don’t.

We refuse to have our own identities used as a stick to beat ourselves with.

How is accepting a sex based definition of lesbian a stick to beat yourself with? Either you are a lesbian (women exclusively attracted to other women - no penises involved) or not?

Having a settled definition that has enabled protection of rights and against discrimination is not ‘haranguing other people for their stated identities‘.

Are you against legal protection for gay rights?

I am openly bisexual and had a lot of lesbian relationships.

I would remive every pride flag if i could. I hate that rainbow BS.

What type of flag design were they? The old-school rainbow one, or the new-fangled regressive one?

REAL as in hurty feelz? That's all they do!

no

Do the police in Scotland ever investigate real crimes?

I refuse to fall for a trap set by someone who mistakenly believes that definitions comprised of inherently finite and limited language can ever encapsulate the complexity of lived lives.

This is one of my favourite ripostes in a long time. A deliciously mind-bending paradox inviting the total collapse of language itself. Unintentionally gorgeous.

Books? Inherently finite and limited language that can never encapsulate the complexity of the published work.

Cats? Inherently finite and limited language that can never encapsulate the complexity of feline existence.

Definition? Inherently finite and limited language that can never encapsulate the complex relationship between signifier and signified.

Human? Totally inadequate as a descriptor in the light of the above. Better not even try.

And, despairing, language itself fades and dies...

Butler would be proud. Sapir-Whorf make a good point.

Just quoting this a second time because I don't want it to get lost.

Can you explain why you think objecting to trans women (male people) in a female only space leads to objecting to lesbians (female people) in a female only space?

Not that many on mumsnet as far as I recall.

You were listing hateful behaviour seen on here specifically - please do give specific examples of hateful stuff.

please do try to look past what you’ve been told and really look at what people are saying.

This is not a hate crime FFS.

also amused that there's a Palestinian flag flying. Morons.

Lesbian WhatsApp groups with men in them. Par for the course in gender land. Persistent, daily homophobia.

Honestly you're not that important or in the minds of others as youd like to think!.
The general population just don't want blokes as in male bodied, XY gened people in female loos/changing,.that's it!

Yes it's most likely a hate crime. It would depend on the motivation.

We exist, despite many people wishing that we never did.

We refuse to have our own identities used as a stick to beat ourselves with.

We make space for complexity without haranguing other people for their stated identities.

Female lesbians?
Honestly cannot think of any other group other than TRA as stunningly exhibited here by suggestions who clearly want the right to determine how others think amd speak!